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Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 4:44:23 AM | Wall Sweeps

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Hi All, When editing a roof line that already has a fascia attached to it, the fascia automatically adjust to the new roof line location. When altering a wall postion ie. adjusting it's base offset a wall sweep that has been placed on it will not automatically adjust with the new wall location. Should a wall sweep automatically adjust just as a fascia would to a roof line? cadjockey

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Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 4:38:40 PM | RE: Wall Sweeps

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A wall sweep that is built into the wall and set by distance from base will adjust... I don't think manually placed host sweeps should move on a wall as generally you wouldn't want them to change. If you don't want it to change build it into the wall as it is most likely a skirting or a cornice...

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Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 12:54:48 AM | RE: Wall Sweeps

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Hi Mr Spot, This is what I have at the moment however, in plan I am able to see the lines which make up the sweep. This creates an unnecessary thick line. Also there is no way (that I know of) I can segregate the sweep from the wall in order to set specific pen weights for this object. Both within revit and more importantly when I export to AutoCAD. Strangely though I have used the same sweep profile within a column family where I have the option to create a sub-catergory of the element (I have called it wall skirting) and give it unique pen settings. When I export to AutoCAD, the sweep when viewed in plan, has different pen wieghts to the column and also sits on its own layer. This is what I am after. The wall family doesn't seem to give me this flexibilty when the sweep is part of the wall. As a separate element the sweep doesn't show up in plan, which is great as it eliminates the excess of lines however, I am unable to alter the wall and have the sweep move with it automatically. I have also looked at the options available within the profile family I used to create the wall sweep. There doesn't seem to be any way to set specific qualities for the sweep. Any tips would be appreciated. cadjockey Post edited on 2005-09-30 00:57:35

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Sun, Oct 2, 2005 at 6:41:59 PM | RE: Wall Sweeps

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I see. I'd say you've nearly exhausted all possibilities there then. As you've discovered there is no way to set built in sweeps of walls to a sub-category of the wall as you can a hosted sweep. (its a wishlist item). If you are doing the sweep external to the wall have you tried constraining the sweep to the bottom/top of the wall using the align and lock or dimensioning and locking? This hopefully will allow you the automation you require. Also try to keep as many segments as one element to avoid having to constrain a lot of individual sweeps. If they are at the same level do them all was one host sweep. HTH.

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Sun, Oct 2, 2005 at 10:50:55 PM | RE: Wall Sweeps

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Hi Mr Spot, I managed to overcome the challenge of seeing the outline of the wall sweeps in plan by playing with the view paramaters of the sheet. This seems to have worked. As for being able to lock an external wall sweep to the wall? I have tried placing a locked dimension within the sweep profile. Locking it the the base reference plane. This didn't seem to work. However, I'll keep trying. The other complication of having the wall sweep external to the wall is not having the option of two different walls sweep types on the same wall. At least I think you can't do this. When I change the default profile for the sweep in preparation for placing another wall sweep type on the same wall, all existing sweeps I have placed on this wall change to the new profile. I think I will keep the wall sweep profile as part of the wall structure and keep my view depth settings in such a way that avoids seeing them in plan. cadjockey

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Mon, Oct 3, 2005 at 1:53:00 AM | RE: Wall Sweeps

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You have to create the new type first. Then place it.

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