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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:40:41 AM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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I have read multiple posts on this topic and researched the internet, but still am having trouble connectin the dots.  It appears that there is NO protection for revit families, schedules, templates and such if cooperating firms share models.  Is this correct?

 We are trying to prevent the extraction of proprietary families by competing firms, which then could be used as they see fit.  Our contracts require the "Revit model" to be transfered for the use of clash detection and collaboration within a BIM model.

I am aware of some options for instance: providing a 3D DWF model in lieu of the actual revit model.  Are there problems associated with this.  Is the dwf model "smart" or "dumb".

This seems very problematic as some firms are very protective of their developments.  So if a small just getting started firm gets into a BIM job with a well established and compentent Revit firm....by sharing Revit models, does the small firm have access to their families and such?  I know there is no way to lock a file, but are models protected at all?  Can a MEP modeler move my column or vice-versa?

If there is any literature on the subject, any direction would be helpful.  Thanks for any information or direction.


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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:47:36 AM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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as of now, if you give them the model they get everything in the model. you can put copyright info in your families. i'm sure password protection for editing families is coming soon though.

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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:40:37 AM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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We talked about this some in our last NorthEast Ohio Revit User's Group meeting.  One good comment was what is your content really worth after a few months?  We built a lot of families in the last few years and a lot of it has been passed up by the content that is now coming form manufacturers.  Computer medium has the fleetest value. 

 

You can protect yourself for a short time by limiting who you share with.  But the fact that we share this information is maybe a good thing.  It is a two way street and it does open up other possibilities.

 

 


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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:01:20 PM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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WWHUB,

I appreciate and agree with your response fully.  Management does not share our sentiments..yet.  But soon they will.   There may not be an 'I' in team, but there is in BIM; and it stands for information.  Sharing Revit information is what will continue to make Revit the industry leading software for BIM applications.  I think those that are not users and do not fully understand how it operates are seeing in black and white...no Revit / AutoCAD punn intneded.

 


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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:09:05 PM | gregroberson

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Quoting gregroberson from 2010-05-05 13:01:20

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WWHUB,

I appreciate and agree with your response fully.  Management does not share our sentiments..yet.  But soon they will.   There may not be an 'I' in team, but there is in BIM; and it stands for information.  Sharing Revit information is what will continue to make Revit the industry leading software for BIM applications.  I think those that are not users and do not fully understand how it operates are seeing in black and white...no Revit / AutoCAD punn intneded.

 

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now i don't  understand your original post, so who's "trying to prevent extraction of proprietary families by competing firms"? is it management?

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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:21:12 PM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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Yes.  The "people" who pay for us to learn the software as we impliment it.  Learning better and faster ways to acomplish goals.  Creating families, and templates.

Yes, we are doing this to make it better for our office, our modelers and users anyway.  The same way people would never give out their AutoCAD line weights and layers.  It is difficult for people to assimilate into a completely new methodology without inhibitions.  It is understandable looking from where they are sitting, I think.


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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:39:04 PM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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have you guys benefited from sites that provided free content that you have used or used a as sarting point to create new content. may you can point this out to them and expalin your views that you stated in your other post. that being able share with other companies will benefit and help grow their users understanding and use of revit.

i hope Autodesk never provide any file use constraining tools. but i sure third parties will.


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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:48:13 PM | Protecting your investment in Revit

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Yes, We have.  As well as we have provided help and assistance in return; I was a new user when I found Revitcity, so I have definately been on the recieving end here.  This sight inparticular...very helpful.  In a user group, there can be mutual benefication.  I think people are concerned with compeitiors...direct compitition that is in close enough contact with our clients to obtain our efforts via model exchange and such.

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