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Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:42:16 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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What is it in the families that define the wall layer wrap at inserts. Take a look at attached jpg... the layer wrap around the door insert (green) is exactly what i am looking for graphically. Something in the window family is off (?), and the layer wrap is graphically wrong (red) for my CDs. Something in the window family I need to adjust?

 

Thanks for your help Smile



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Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:14:03 AM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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To control wall wraps at inserts you have two choices:  1. The wall property determines the wrapping, or 2. the family (door or window is set to wrap)

In either case it is the definition of the wall that makes the difference.  In the wall editor you define the layers that will wrap by checking the wrap box.  You also decide if the exterior, interior, or both will wrap.  The wraping layers are supposed to return to the "core" element that is defined.  That said, it doesn't always work properly especially in complex walls and stacked walls.

My own personal prefence is to do all the wrapping at inserts via wall types in my project.

As a side note, I also create jdoor and window families that are specific to masonry conditions as usually the frame is not full depth of the wall as you have shown.  It also looks like your window is inside out.  If you select the window you should see a little blue flip arrow.  That flip arrow is always on the exterior side of an object in Revit.

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Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:55:45 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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Thanks HTH, But here we go..

In the wall editor I have defined only the finish layer (brick) to wrap by checking the wrap box.  I also decided the exterior will wrap.  What do you mean by "The wraping layers are supposed to return to the 'core' element that is defined." Core element? defined? this sounds like something i want to learn more about.

To date, I have done all the wrapping at inserts via wall types in my project, never set a family (door or window) to wrap (?).

 I realize my  window is inside out, I flipped it for display purposes.  If you see attached image, you'll understand why. It appears as though the finish is wrapping to some defined point in the window. When the window is "right-side out," it seems as though the point to which the wrap snaps is not far enough from the finish material, although when i flip the window inside-out (never adjustign the wrap settings), the wrap is snapping to the same point, but now too far in. Look at the door, whatever is defining the wrap in the door insert is correct. Can i adjust something  in my window family to control the wrap "snap" ?

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Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:03:51 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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found this in google search, unforetunatly i cannot read the page this info is on:

 

Mastering Revit Architecture 2010 - Google Books Result

Greg Demchak, Tatjana Dzambazova, Eddy Krygiel - 2009 - Computers - 768 pagesFor this purpose, Revit provides Layer wrapping options in the wall Edit Assembly ... defines a plane in the window family to which wall layers can wrap to. ...
Where is this "plane"...does anyone know!?

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Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:22:12 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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okay, figured it out for anyone else with this problem.

 

open your family for editing. There is probably a reference plane in there (weak reference so may have to tab over it in order to select it) only visible in floor plans, floor line/ref. plane. select it and open instance properties. 

                  wall closure MUST me unchecked.

                   defines origin MUST be checked.

                   OK. save. load into project, overwrite exisiting.

 

hope this helps someone out Smile



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Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:49:37 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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I suggest that users also read the two topics in their HELP on how to contorl wrapping.  Just searh your HELP using wrap as your search.

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Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:21:35 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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thanks. so, is the way i described doing it, incorrect?

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Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:10:10 PM | Wall Layer Wrap At Inserts

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Helminia - thank you, this worked a treat!

 

The only thing is; I had to 'Check' the 'wall closure' box for it to work as i liked... 


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