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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:42:28 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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Right now I am the only drafter and I use autocad 10 revit mep and structure 10 I am expected to try and draw all the componets of certain jobs we get and detail all of the pipe. So that means I need all the building drawn plus steel and all of that so I know that I am not having issues.

How many people work in anyones company so I can give my boss an example that it takes a large amount of time to draw a modle especialy when your still "new" and only have been out of school for a few months?

 


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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:45:22 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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if you are just out of school, what were they doing before and how long was it taking?

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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:54:13 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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The last guy that was here that I replaced couldnt even begin to figure out how to use revit. I am to the point where im still learning but i can get some usefull stuff out of my models

I guess what he dose not understand is that when he sees they used BIM for a new hospital that was alot more than one guy working on it.

Any advice to how i should handle this situation


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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:45:35 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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I work at a 2 man firm specializing in light commercial work and we use Revit Architecture. I do 99% of the drawing. In 2009, we completed 16 small commercial projects and 10 residential projects. I have used Revit since release 5, and I learned the same way you are learning: jump in and do it. In my opinion, it is the best way to learn because you have to figure out some things on your own, which in turn helps you remember those things better. Speed will come with practice.

I think it all comes down to your project time frame. You can't be expected to do everything in a very short amount of time. My advice: model what you absolutely have to, and use detail components where you can.

As for the MEP side of it, make it as easy on yourself as possible. I have set up a very efficient way of drawing plumbing riser diagrams in our template - all in 2D (I have played with Revit MEP for risers before, but I have not spent much time making it look like I want it to). It does take some time to get your libraries and templates set up, but they help tremendously. 


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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:07:49 PM | Just trying to keep my job

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I don't think you will find the right answer here.  Too many variables.  Your boss needs to do some research.  There are some very good white papers on the AutoDESK site regarding implementation of Revit.  Your boss needs to recognize the costs and benefits then really buy into using Revit.  He should also consider some training for whoever will be using it and that may include him.

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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:30:24 PM | Just trying to keep my job

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we both know that the cost is high but how long until revit becomes like autocad and has fixed all of the little bugs. I love using Revit but the are alot of things that I have found imposible or very time consuming...

 

jterrell i think you have the right idea about making a base file with all the stuff needed to get through a project loaded into it. It takes alot of time to load all of the stuff everytime you get a new file


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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:05:59 PM | Just trying to keep my job

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yeah thats a tough question.  You should explain that theres a 3rd dimension and you arent just drawing lines. Try to Explain how you do certain things step by step like "just to change a run of a pipe" and maybe they'll understand its not just 2D lines.



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Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:30:42 PM | Just trying to keep my job

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There's an old addage directed at bosses (and I'm one). If you don't train your people, don't complain when the next time you ask for something and they don't know how to do it.

Revit is the future. It will not overtake AutoCad overnight or maybe not even by the 2015, but soon enough. By investing in you, he's securing the future of his company. Already, some firms are being excluded from consult work on a project because they are not using Revit.

Keep learning.

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Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:07:03 PM | Just trying to keep my job

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ROGER THAT we are doing the same thing by filtering consultants who use revit or not.

Agreed Also anyone using revit today is ahead of the game.


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Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:40:58 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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As an architecture undergrad graduating in May I've been using Revit as a documentation tool since Revit 2008. I'll be teaching a workshop for my less competent peers this semester. I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but my question to the assorted bosses/principals is the following: How would you suggest best marketing the ability to work effectively in Revit, and to teach it to others? Obviously a resume and portfolio of Revit work, but I'm lost as to how to solicit a job/internship. They firms I've approached aren't interested in Revit, and I believe it's a fear of the unknown. Help?

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Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:51:47 AM | Just trying to keep my job

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to answer your hijacking...

First off you probably know some sort of Acad work.  You need to show that you have experienced that also. Second  You shouldnt filter your job searching to just Revit affliated firms. Though thats a plus its just too scarce of a job market in general to be very selective as an applicant right now.  I know a guy who was laid off at my office, and he was somewhat selective in his search because he wanted to use revit (and i dont blame him). He eventually(3-4 months) found a firm that was barely knew anything about revit but recently had purchased a copy to mess with it. He is there now and they are doing way more revit than they were doing before he got there.

Marketing that I mean its pretty straight foward... heres the program I know and heres what it can I produce with it. Oh yeah and I can teach your whole firm while im at it.


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