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RAC 2010 when you create a wall as a family how do you add wall assemblies and layers like you do with a system wall?
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Hi, Don't exactly know what you mean. Wall is a system family and is inherent (built-in) in your model. 2 types of families in Revit, system and hosted. Wall is a system family and I think for now we cannot create system families only duplicate them and modify. For now, we can create a family that is using a floor based template that looks functions like a wall. To define assembly in that kind of wall, you have to manually assign each and every element property while creating them and must behave parametrically-that's a lot of trouble, I think.Can you be more specific of your scenario?
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mhans- thanks for trying to help.. i think you are saying there are only "system" walls.. please see the wall i created that is NOT a system wall..
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Yes, you can actually make an in place model and categorize it as a wall. But you cannot assign or tag combination of materials like you would in a system family wall. You can only assign Function & Identity data to your in-place wall model but cannot define its material/structural composition. And in an in-place wall, like your wall1, will not respond to trim, extend, split like a real wall. May I know your reason for trying to create your own wall assembly?
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thanks again mhans- i'm thinking i can design any wall shape i want as an in-place family wall and build a generic model that can more easily be modified in a design stage.. and i'm wondering how that kind of model can be converted to construction details when it is ready.. are you saying once you start with an in-place wall it can never become a real wall?
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In-Place Elements Yes, you are right. You cannot convert an in-place wall to a system wall later on. There is no option to duplicate or match prop an in-place wall with another in-place wall. A system wall has more functionality like core face exterior/interior, base/top constraint, base offset, inserts/end wrapping, and the likes that are very helpful in changing wall types later on in the CD phase. For schematics and DD, your in-place wall wil come in handy, but once you are itemizing your wall components, you will find yourself redrawing again those walls. In-place elements are custom elements that you create in the context of a project. Create an in-place element when your project needs unique geometry that you do not expect to reuse or geometry that must maintain one or more relationships to other project geometry.
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so then how can an in-place wall "come in handy" if it can never be used to represent a real wall and has to be torn down and replaced with a system wall?
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Pls. see attached for a generic sample. If you will be doing the CD too, system walls will later on give you more flexibility. If you're just presenting your ideas, your in-place wall will just be fine.
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