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Sat, Sep 3, 2005 at 10:48:54 PM | approaches to cabinetry?

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I'm a Revit newbie. Any thoughts on how to tackle the task of inserting cabinetry (kitchen, bathroom, etc.) into a Revit project? From what I can tell there are just a few sources for cabinetry families available, and most of the family models are fairly simple slab front Euro-style cabinets with not much detail. It seems that creating casework families that are truly parametric will be a huge undertaking, and to be able to have a choice of full overlay, full inset (face framed) and beaded face framed cabinetry with different door/drawer front options (shaker, cope & stick, raised panel, etc.). Has anyone out there tackled this in a comprehensive way? I know that fully parametric custom cabinetry programs exist as stand alone products (Cabinet Vision, 20/20, Pattern Systems, KCDW to name a few). Do any of these translate into Revit, or is it just simpler to model the cabinetry in 3D and insert it in a non-parametric form?

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Sat, Sep 3, 2005 at 11:37:28 PM | RE: approaches to cabinetry?

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I know of companies that have created very parametric casework families that can basically automatically generate an entire unit based on the parameters with family type parameters that enable you to switch door types as you've outlined. Of course a family of this detail is very large, some around 1.5MB so changing parameters can take a bit of processing, but much better than having many smaller families. A lot of overhead must be put into such a beast, but the benifits are easily worth it in the end. Making it possible to generate full 3D cabinetry units in a matter of minutes. You would need to utilise quite a lot of nested families and <family type> to get what your after, but its definitely doable. It would also require some very good understanding of family creation and reference plane frame work. Yes you could import 3D models from these programs providing you can get them into a 3D DWG or SAT form, however as you mentioned they won't be parametric. Another method is if this is to model the cabinetry using specially created walls, floors and doors. Which i've done previously and is very useful as it gives you much more ability to change things on the fly. Best to way up how much of this you are going to do, and how you want to extrapolate the information out of revit... Scheduling? Sheet sizes etc. Or whether its just for visualisation purposes? HTH.

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Mon, Sep 5, 2005 at 6:26:39 PM | RE: approaches to cabinetry?

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thanks for the reply... a lot or really good information there. Have any of these caswork families been made available for public consumption, either by sharing or outright purchase? Or are have these casework families been created for a comany's own 'in-house' use, and thus not otherwise available? (I could understand the value of this, and why a company might want to closely guard this kind of information.) Regardless, do you know of any tutorial resources or training books that do a superior job of explaining the finer points of creating families and nesting? I'm afraid that I need a little hand holding to get through this process since I'm a newbie to Revit with faily little formal training. thanks again

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