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I'm currently "learning" Revit at ITT, but the teacher's only had a three week training course herself and has no idea what she's doing. It's quite inffuriating. My frist question...

We've laid out the column and beam grids and are adding walls. When I click and drag the wall's from column to column and zoom in the lines are overlapping. As in the the steel and brick would be in the same point in space. Since a basic understanding of physics tells us this is impossible, what is the proper way to do this? Would a real building plan wrap the walls around the collumn? Unless construction technology has advanced to the point they can telleport bricks int place so that they fuse with the structure, I'm fairly certain we are doing this wrong...

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What is neat about BIM is basically that you should model it as you would build it.  So... if you see too items in the same place in space, you have to correct your design... modify it as you would have to in the field...except you get to make the right decesion now.

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Hi There.

Im a licensed Architect so I love these types of questions. Really though you should check out that book Building Construction Ilustrated By frank ching. That book will show you a lot with very good illustrations. Having said that....

If you want to brick up a steel column, your got a lot of choices. Simple flat brick veneer on some subsurface like plywood or styrofoam too!. that itself attaches to wood 2x material that has been screwed to the steel column.... Or you place bricks on the outside of the columns with metal clips, anchors or some other such device that lets the columns move without cracking off the bricks. Or you build a wood stud wall right around the column and attach flat bricks to that. Or you cover the columns with concrete to protect them from fire. then you can attach and frikkin thing you want to that....brick, tile, glass, anything. Just know that never would the bricks touch the steel column itself. Its all a mater of movement and breathing spaces in building. well and Weather proofing too, but I degress 

there are kinda a million choices when you get down to it. So if your interested in learning the program to work in the construction industry, then the book is the way to go. 

http://www.amazon.com/Building-Construction-Illustrated-Francis-Ching/dp/0470087811/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261799441&sr=8-1

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thanks folks...

 I'm honestly not that interested in being an architect or working in construction. I like design, but there's so much BS to put up with in the industry. I just figure if I'm gonna do something I should do it right. Is there any way someone could post a pic of what this should look like in the 2d view in Revit? Or know of a good tutorial? Maybe we could Trade emails and I could show you what we're doing and you could show me what it SHOULD look like? I'm looking arround for tutuorials on here now...

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Zack. just post a pic of what you have and we can take a look at it. then we can post response pictures.

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Hey, I figured since I'm going to have so many questions (apparently ITT's stance is I can pay them to learn from here), it'd be easier to start threads specific to the issues I'm having, so I made one for this here...

http://www.revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=19060

and I can do screen caps now, so that makes it easier to share my problems, thank you.

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