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We have a customer who does not want us to give up the model to others in fear of proprietary modeling information being taken for use by others, so much so in that we have to sign confidentiality agreements on every project.Currently, we download their Revit file and link it into our MEP Revit.Is it possible for us to host, or the architect to host, the Revit Model on a web server, and us, and then us or a subcontractor can link it in via the web without the ability to download it, open it for editing, saving it to a file, stealing families from within it, etc.What I am looking for is the ability to link to it, see it, and filter it as needed, but not the ability to open it or save it.Is this possible?
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Sorry - I don't see any way to do this. I think the confidentiality agreements are the best you can do.
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I don't see why this could not work. My limited knowledge of networking tell me this: if you place a file on a network, anyone with access to that network can use it. A network or intranet is the same as the internet. If you place a file on an FTP site for instance, you can access that FTP site through your windows explorer. Why could you not do the sam while linking a revit file. Additionally, this would work (theoretically) with central files. We could have a central file on a ftp site and have the architectural, structural, and MPE all saving to the same file (with lots of worksets of course). Any thoughts?
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Guess I missed that you can't do anything with the model except look at it. The author said he links in the model and that is different then his final question. He would have to still maintain that process. Why the internet doesn't work....there is no service out there for this... But there is Design Review which gives you most of this function. Why not use that? Andthe DWF can be linked into a model.
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Hub, "no service for this"? What do you mean? Do you mean a Revit sponsored FTP site? Why would it need to be a Revit FTP site? Why not just any FTP website?
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FTP is a shared model. The poster wants to lock the model up. That would require some sort of software that allows you to manipulate the model but not save anything from it. Nothing exists like that except design review.
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BTW - FTP stands for File Transfer Protocal.... key words here "FILE TRANSFER"
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Jcrocco wants to link it in without downloading it. Why cant he just use link the model, and choose the FTP site for the location, versues choosing the company server? When the model is linked, it is 'locked up'
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I don't think the issue here should really be if it can or can't as it should more be should or should not. The idea of linking a file into Revit from an FTP site sounds ludicrous to me. Linking files can kill Revit's performance, we all know that. So why would one WANT to link, if possible, from an ftp site? There could be issues with firewalls, losing connections...all issues we face on our own networks...but we can recover those files. If the network I working on, is not hosting the ftp, then I would be at their mercy. I am constantly linking files form our Oklahoma City, Tulsa and St. Louis offices and just going across our network is bad enough so I can't image having to deal with our securities as well as another companies just to link in a file. And if this client is concerned about information getting stolen I would not use an FTP. FTP sites usually listen to the well known port 21 and commands and transferred files can be captured by someone on the same network using a packet sniffer. Granted, most of the security issues can be accounted for if you use maybe a FTPS or SFTP but then we are back to more encryption, firewall, security issues that would more than likely kill Revit’s performance. So back to what I said earlier, even if it worked or works...the question is should you and I would say no, not at all. I think HUB hit the nail on the head with the use of design review. It will give him exactly what he is looking for. A model that can be viewed, linked, manipulated....but wont push changes back to Revit and will not compromise their "proprietary data." I would say that 95% of our work is with the Government and dwf files work just fine...and if it works for them and the constant state of paranoia...I would imagine that it would work for most.
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