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Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:03:46 PM | Planning for Permitting

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We are a design-build steel-manufactured construction company.  We will make a set of preliminary prints that we submit to county and state for permitting.  How many of you do this, and how do you handle the project at this point.

Our problem with managing Revit is this: we only need to show so much on our sheets that we submit for permitting.  However, once we get the project to this point, we keep working on it and any changes made after that become a revision.

The problem with this is that we need a way to go back to what the project looked like at the time we had submitted it for permitting; say to make more prints or copies for contractors or various reasons.

 

So, what do we do?  Do we make individual project files each time we get our project ready for permitting?  Abandon that one, call it 'For Permitting Only' and then work from a copy to continue working on the project from there?

 

This gets pretty lengthy with all kinds of explanations I could pose about one of our recent projects, But for now I would like to know what others are doing to prevent "reverse-engineering" the project when asked to produce copies of what we had submitted earlier or change something about what we had permitted earlier.

 

Should this be handled as a phase?  Create a permitting phase, then work from there as a construction phase?  This would allow us to show only what we had done for permitting.  But the thing about that is that some of the notations or keynotes might change once we get the building actually ordered.  So how would we show what those originally said if we are going to show both phases?

 

Would like your thoughts and input.  Maybe some examples how you manage your projects before sending them out the door.


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Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:50:45 AM | Planning for Permitting

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Yes, you can use design options under manage (RAC2010) to your work. Work on the same file using design options and worksets but always keep a copy of any milestone phase (i.e. permitting, any major revision, etc.). Use also revision tags and clouds to remind you of your changes and by whom. You have option to merge these revisions or not show them on prints. If many are working in a file, establish worksets access. That would put some control on who's doing what. That's what Revit is supposed to do, to keep track of what you have been doing to your file, if properly implemented.

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Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:53:30 AM | Planning for Permitting

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You do know that you can duplicate views and create new sheets?

 

And that you can save record PDF's?

 

I would save a copy of the central at permitting stage as a record along with its associated PDF's then continue working in the project.  We do that for SD and DD.  I really don't see any reason to duplicate views and create new sheets but it is up to you.

 

 


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Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:40:53 PM | Planning for Permitting

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WWHUBI do know you can duplicate views and different sheets, but I think you answered my question.  We do make PDFs as well with each construction and revision print.  But I'm like you in thinking that I should keep a separate file for Permitting only.

 

Thanks for your input.  I'll keep checking back to see if anyone else has anything further to add.


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Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:58:31 PM | Planning for Permitting

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More helpful would be is to export your views and sheet to a DWF format where you can import/insert back to your Revit file later on to compare what had been changed. Revit at this time cannot overlay pdf files.

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Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:47:58 PM | Planning for Permitting

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Yeah that could be helpful.  But what I want to do is to create a "restore" point where I can view what my project was at the time of being submitted for permitting.  When I want to resume the project I just continue from before I turned on my restore point.

 

Y'know, kinda like going from 'A' (permitting) to 'B' (continuing the project) and at some point being able to set your project back to 'A' without losing 'B'.  Then set it back to 'B' when ready to progress further with the project again.

 

Would this best be done with a phase perhaps?  Call one phase permitting and the other construction?  Show both until needing to view the permitting phase again?  How would this work with details and notation?  I've not used phases before but I wonder if this might be the way to go.


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Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:31:14 PM | Planning for Permitting

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Don't mess around with phases for this.  Either your project is at stage C or you open ujp A and restart.

 

I personally like to keep dated images of my projects (just dated locals) on my local drive.  They don't take up any network space and they alwys give me an option to open the project up (discoinnected from central) at an intermediate point and copy / paste out of that.


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Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 1:48:05 PM | Planning for Permitting

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I like that idea.  I think I will start doing that from now on.

 

Thanks all


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