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Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 8:11:17 AM | Callout tags

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Hi all, OK! This is driving me nuts. I am trying to change the default callout tag shown on the plan view denoting the elevation cross reference. This is what I am doing to do this after I have loaded the callout tag I wish to use. 1. right click the existing callout and select properties. 2. select edit/new 3. Change the value of the callout parameter to show the call out I previously loaded. 4. click apply. This has no effect on the callout whatsoever. I have also tried changing the callout tag selection within the 'view tags' tool within the settings menu. Still no change. What am I doing wrong? cadjockey

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Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 10:49:23 PM | RE: Callout tags

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Not sure what "value" your referring to. Providing you have loaded your callout tag and you have created new types in the Settings-->View Tags section for callouts using your new loaded callout tag. (Do this by duplicating the existing one and then swapping the tag its using in the drop down.) Just select the callout, goto properties. Edit/New and swap the callout tag in the drop down menu for the tag you have just setup to use. HTH.

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Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 3:58:58 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Hi Mr Spot, The call out tag I'm referring to is the one you see in plan view indicating the elevation. I am loading another tag I wish to use from the annotation library into the project. I am then creating a duplicate of the existing tag after selecting properties then edit/new. Changing the 'callout tag' parameter setting of this element duplicate to the one I loaded. This should change the callout tag to the one I loaded however, this is frustratingly not the case. Am I missing a step? Do I need to regen the drawing? cadjockey

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Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 5:51:32 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Okay so your not referring to the callout tag your talking about the elevational tag. Elevations are system families and as such can't be modified beyond the bounds of the settings within revit. You cannot load a family for these elements. It has been on the wishlist since version 4...

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Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 7:57:46 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Hi Mr Spot, Yes the elevation tag. Sorry. still getting my head around the lingo. WOW! that's sure is surprising. With all the flexibility you have in changing families, the simplest of functions like changing a reference symbol on the plans view can't be done. Believe me. It will take some convincing to get my boss to change over to revit. He'll take this flaw and use it as yet another reason why we shouldn't change. I'm sold though! cadjockey

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Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:05:47 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Yeah elevations and leader types are two of the main annotations that aren't currenlty as adjustable as they need to be...

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Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 4:25:30 PM | RE: Callout tags

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Just my 2 cents....... Your boss wouldn't switch to Revit because an elevation marker was not in the form he wanted?? Seems rather short sighted since what you gain with Revit is incredible, a fully documented building in 2D and 3D with no coordination errors on the printed documentation. Renderings that are fully in sync with the model and the ability to schedule everything. Production gains of 50-100-200% Willing to give all that up for an elevation tag difference? I'm glad I have competitiors out there that think like that as we are kicking those firms in the you know what with our use of Revit. Please tell your boss to not switch to Revit. Tom Post edited on 2005-08-16 11:26:21

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Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 2:21:22 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Hi Tom, I am totally sold on the software. Unfortunatley my boss is old school. From the ink pen and drafting film days. I will need to explain the advantages in company profit terms. He will understand that. However, tackeling the office manager who is autocad happy and resistant to change will be another battle. This is why I posted a thread regarding Revits capabilities in exporting to dwg format. If I can make this seemless at least the process of switching over to Revit will be relatively painless. cadjockey

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Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 3:27:36 AM | RE: Callout tags

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cadjockey, I wouldn't waste my time on trying to convince any AutoCAD happy manager. In a couple of years he'll be wearing a paper hat and a name tag asking you if you want to supersize your burger order. My advice is learn Revit and write your own ticket to a better job. I run the Revit Users Group in the Minneapolis - St. Paul area and I get an email a week from firms looking for Revit people. I myself am looking for someone to join our firm as we need to get rid of a couple of AutoCAD happy people who are now like anchors dragging us down as they refuse to learn Revit. We are doing our largest project ever in Revit 200,000 Sq. Ft. 3 story corporate learning center. Total staff required for complete project documentation: 2 persons part-time. Both of us working on it have other projects and IT responsibities in the firm. Could your ACAD happy manager make a claim like that? I think not ! Best of luck..... Tom

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Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 9:11:37 AM | RE: Callout tags

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I realise it it is "fudging" it but if elevation tags are that important to a company, surely you can use the standard elevation tags from revit but hide them in all views in Visibility/graphics and create a "non-working" elevation tag that matches your company requirements with changeable parameters as necessary. It is not ideal but once created it is the work of moments to bring into a project and switch off the revit tags.

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Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 2:33:37 AM | RE: Callout tags

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Hi fazerneil, Thanks for the option. That's how I was goig to deal with it. The closer I can get revit to emulate our existing cad protocol the more chance I have of convincing the die hards to make the move. At the very least I'm not waiting for them. Even it means changing firms. cadjockey

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Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:21:17 PM | Callout tags

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I just did it in Revit 20081. Open Annotation folder2. Find on preview Level Head you think is closest to one you want (so you can use something)3. Save as level head “your name” (or mineSmile4. Edit any way you like. Filled region is easy, by the way. (I could not scale it, so I had to redraw it)5. Save.6. Open your dwg.7. File-Load from Library-Your File.8. On the drawing highlight your level and go in “element properties”.9. Click Edit/New 10. Under Type Parameters find “Symbol”11. Click on symbol name you have by default and an arrow will appear on right.12. Click arrow and you will see your new creation.13. Pick it and click OK.All level heads will change in your project. I do not know yet, how to change only one, because I do not need it.

 I will be very happy if it helps. From me big THANK YOU to Mr. Spot for his first reply with settings-view tags-callout tags. This is vital for changing drafting view callout tag, I could not make since this morning.

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Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:39:20 AM | Callout tags

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Hi Chertila,

You do realise this thread was referring to elevation markers and not level heads or callout heads?  Unfortunately Elevation Marks are still not able to modified beyond the settings within the project as they are still a System Family...


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