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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:39:58 AM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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Revit Architecture 2009.

 Every time I create a sketch line for  curtain wall adjacent to wall face it automatically snaps the line to the middle of the wall when I finish the sketch. Is there a way to stop this happening as it's causing some real headaches. I can't seem to move the sketch line back to where I want it without it snapping again when I finish the sketch. I've tried turning allow joins off for both sides of the curtain wall but still no joy.


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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:50:29 AM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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Not sure if this is what you want.  Click on the blue dot at the end of the CW and turn off wall joins.

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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:59:03 AM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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As mentioned I have already done this for the two ends of the curtain wall, but my sketch line is in the middle of the wall (the sketh is creating an L shaped in elevation for it).

The main problem seems to be that this is a sketch for the curtain wall, and sketch lines dont have an allow join option. The shape is meant to make the curtain wall stup up over a brick wall, but the line running up the face of the brick wall keeps being automatically moved to the centreline of the wall instead of the face of it.


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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:04:43 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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You switch off the joins after placing then adjust the location.  BTW ... The actual location of the wall in relation to this location line is up to you.  The default location is the center but you can setup the panels and mullions to be anywhere in relation to this line.

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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:47:06 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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I think I may not have explained myself very well.

 

My problem is not related to adjusting a curtain wall in plan, or to the position of elements relative to the centreline of the curtain wall.

 

I have created a curtain wall (and turned off wall joins). I am now editing the profile in elevation so that it forms an upside down L shape wrapping over the top of a lower brick wall (which is seen in section when I edit the profile of the curtain wall and runs through the middle of the the curtain wall). The sketch lines I am referring to are the lines creted for the profile when in the 'edit profile' mode.

 

When I place one of these lines vertically on the face of the lower brick wall it gets moved across to the centreline of the wall, changing the sketch for the profile so that it no runs up within the wall instead of on the face of it.

If I get time I'l ltry and post a couple of screenshots to show what I mean



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Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:58:29 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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 I have had some similar issues where curtain walls joined in unusual ways. Not only would they snap to wall ends, sometimes they would embed in other ajoining walls, overlapping. I would not be able to achieve what I wanted while in plan view. By accident, I discovered while in an elevation view I was able to drag the wall ends to the desired position using the arrow grips. It sounds kind of cheesy but see if this works.

 Big on my wishlist for Revit is that the toggle for all wall joins can be set to off as the default. I spend more time trying to disjoin walls than I would ever spend having to join them. The way it is now is fine for sandbox quick sketches to quickly model a design. But for real modeling of a building, it creates lots of headaches similar RevitRainman's problem.


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Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:31:07 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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Ok, I've managed to make some screenshots of the problem.

Image 1 shows the wall highlighted which runs perpendicular to my curtain wall.

 

Image 2 shows the curtain wall highlighted

 

Image 3 shows the sketch profile I am trying to create for the curtain wall in elevation

 

Image 4 shows the sketch after clicking finish and going back in to it, notice the highlighted line has automatically moved to the centreline of the wall, no matter what I do I cannot get this line to stay on the face of the wall, it always moves back o the cl of the wall, even if I lock it to the face.

 

Image 5 shows the curtain wall and wall in plan (curtain wall is highlighted)



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Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:48:48 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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I think th only fix is to split this into two curtain walls and not use an end mullion on the overshooting wall where it joins the full height portion.

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Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:54:07 PM | curtain wall sketch snapping problem

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Unfortunately that was the conclusion I came to befoer I thought I'd try here to see if anyone could help.

Also unfortunately, splitting the curtain wall works on this simple example, but doesn't work when you start trying to do anything more complex.

 

Does anyone know if this is fixed in 2010?


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