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jonelizares

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My goal is to have each cubicle like its own "room" so i can take from it its information about the person sitting there(ex: "john doe, Ext#, etc" in the image) but also want to tag the entire room as a whole ("Production" in the image) and have everything Schedule accordingly if that room were say to change("production" to "Slaves" ) then the schedule for all those cubicles will know what room the cubicle is in. is that confusing? i know there whats called Area plans but for some reason i couldnt get the "area name" ( "Production" ) to schedule with the rooms (cubicles). any help would be appreciated.

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If you want the occupant to change with the room, then it is probably best to create a family that can be scheduled per room with the correct shared parameters applied.

I've attached an example of a project that has a "people" family created as a furniture object along with a custom furniture tag to display the three custom shared parameters I created and assigned to the "furniture" category.

There are a couple of things to note about this method though.

1.  The "cube" will not know it's area since it is not a room object.2.  The data rules of duplicates will not be enforced like some of the built-in Revit parameters.

Have a look at the attached object and reverse engineer/modify as you see fit.

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Thanks.

I was thinking that would work but i figured a room would be a more "correct" way to do it so i never did it that way. but i mean it works fine it gets the job done. but if you figure out a way to get it to still be liek a room then that be great. if i did ever need to know the square footage of teh space. i cant think of an exact example where i would need to but just in case.

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To use "rooms" for the cubes it gets more interesting and complex.

You could use room separation lines to define the space of each cubicle and insert a room object into the cubicle space.  This gives you the area of the cubicle, but destroys the idea that the true room the cubicles are in reports its area to the bounding walls of the room minus the individule cubicles withing the true room.

If you are comfortable with phases you could establish the true rooms area in one phase then create a seperate phase for the "occupancy" of the building and use the cubicle room method.  Since rooms are hardcoded to a phase you can get away with this.  The downside though is that inside Revit rooms from one phase no nothing about rooms from another phase.

Revit MEP with its "spaces" might solve this type of problem.  I keep pushing for more robust solutions when it comes to these issues inside Revit.  I would like to have three levels of understanding of space subdivision: Dept/Room/Cube-sub area.  I do what I can now that I'm on the inside of Autodesk.

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but if the cubicles are on one level and the overall room is on another level then how will the cubicels know its within the overall room?

in additon now. how would we be able to make a key schedule for this. where the key would be the employees name so then when i place that "occupant" component and scheudle it i can choose the employees name then all of the other information will automatically fill according to the key schedule.

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