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Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:27:58 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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I have a computer which did all the work on this one file.  I think it was set up originally to share, but not sure (was our first one).

I installed Revit on a second machine, and wanted to just see it and print it, not actually work in it.

I installed it on the other machine.  I went to just open the central file, it gave me tons of errors.

I copied the local file from the original machine to the new machine, and opened it that way.

There may have been an error or something saying someone else owned it, or something like that.  I was playing in it, and went to move something to see how the program on this slower machine was.  I was going to just quit out of it, but couldnt find a way to just quit, so I had to save to central or dont relinguish.  Not sure what I did.  But I got out of it.  I dont think I saved to central, cause the change I made wasnt showing up when I opened it on the original machine.

Now, I go to move the thing I wanted to move, and it told me i cant because "cant edit the element until the other machine resaves the element to central and relinguishes it and you reload latest"

I go to the other machine, and it tells me "cant obtain permission to edit the element: The central file is inaccessible.  You can check out worksets at risk, but consider carefully"

I dont know what to do from here.  Can anyone help?


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Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:56:49 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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IT sounds like someone opened the central and saved in the same location as a local... maybe you?  Open the file detached and create a new central file then create a new local file and all should be fine.  Everyone will have to make new locals from this new central.

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Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:22:05 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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Is there an easy way to explain what needs to be done.

How do you create a new central file?

 


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Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:32:03 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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  1. Click open
  2. Select detach from central
  3. pick your file
  4. select save as
  5. click options
  6. select make this file a central file after save
  7. name it and choose location on network
  8. finished?...you now have a central and that is what you still have open
  9. select save as...
  10. save it to a local directory with a local name
Now you are in your local - linked to your central

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Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:19:32 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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That worked very well, thank you.

 Now I have it working again, how do I open the central file from another computer without screwing it up?  Currently, I just want to be able to open, view, and print, BUT I will want to be able to work within the same file eventually.

ALSO, Is there a way to just QUIT out of a file without having to save it?


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Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:20:34 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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Our rule is:

If you are just opening the file to look at it or print, open the central using the detach from central option.  Then just quit out of it.

 

If you want to ever work in the file use your own local but always RL (reload latest) if others have been working.  If you don't have a local, open the central file and before doing anything, do a save-as and save it to your local drive giving it a local name.  You are now in your own local copy.

 

A RULE YOU MUST ENFORCE.  When anybody opens their local file and does anything!!!, they MUST do a save to central then save local before exiting the file.


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Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:30:00 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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Thank you. good to know.  I will try that and see.

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Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:24:28 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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This is VERY aggravating.I did what you said, and I got the file to work on the original station.  I went to the second station, and opened the "central file" and it wouldn't open without all kinds of errors.  There were 50 errors, and it states to ask the other user to do something, but the other user doesn’t get any notice.  I can’t keep making new local files every time.  This is just ridiculous.  Am I the only one who has problems or is this a convoluted mess that not many people understand?

I need to understand how to create a new workable central file when I have a user already using an existing central file and a local file.


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Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:40:54 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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If you followed the 10 steps I gave before, everything should be correct EXCEPT ...

After you crteated your local file, did you do some work?  If you did, did you do a save to central?  

You need to understand this process.  Please read this in the HELP before you become totally frustrated:

Using Workshared Files

Saving to Central

Saving Workshared Files

Worksharing Workflow

This will help give you a better understanding of the process.


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Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:41:17 AM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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I created a new central file on the first machine, using the 10 steps you stated, no problem.

I opened the file and was able to make changes, no problem.

I saved to central and to local no problem.

I went to the second computer, and erased the local file that I had copied over previously.

I opened the NEW central file, and thats where everything started messing up.

I will read what you suggested, and maybe its settings within the file that are causing these issues.


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Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:20:11 AM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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I think I got it figured out now, thank you very much.

It was the borrowing that was messing me up.


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Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:14:40 PM | Help, cant edit my file, seems to be locked by both users.

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Thank you so much, WWHUB, I was able to fix my problem as well.


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