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Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:45:26 PM | Need Help Aligning /Locking Nested Components to Host Curtain Wall Panel

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I am trying to develop a composite curtain wall panel that I call "EWP-II Panel Composite.rfa". The composite panel consists of 3 nested families (EWP-II Panel-Int.rfa; EWP-II Panel-Ext.rfa; and EWP-II Panel-Core.rfa). The files are attached for testing.

When I use any of the individual componets (ie. EWP-II Panel-Int.rfa, etc.) as a replacement panel for curtain wall panels they work properly, in that they resize to fill the panel opening.

However, when the panels are nested to create a composite component (EWP-II Panel Composite.rfa) the 3 inserted panels will only extend to their original extruded length and does not adjust to any other panel opening size. Therefore, the composite panel is not parametric and is not capable of resizing itself based on the current panel opening size.

My experience has been that whenever I am in the family editor, and try to align the top and bottm edges of the individal components to a common reference plane of the nested family an error occurs (constraints not satisfied). I have not been able to overcome this error, therefore the 3 panels cannot move as a single item when inserting them as replacement panels in curtain walls.

 Any help with this problem will be greatly appreciated.



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Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:15:12 PM | Need Help Aligning /Locking Nested Components to Host Curtain Wall Panel

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I don't understand what you are doing but why didn't you use the correct template and do it all in one file rather than nested?

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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:22:36 AM | Need Help Aligning /Locking Nested Components to Host Curtain Wall Panel

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I work in the metal building industry. My company is in the process of developing metal clad insulation panels that consist of three layers (Inner-Skin; Outer-Skin; and Insulated core). 

The current plan is to use a single model for the purpose of developing energy models and production/fabrication purposes.  For the energy model we only need panel counts, widths, heigths, area, and set energy parameters, etc. As you indicated this could have been done as a one curtain panel file.

 However, for production/fabrication we need to treat the three component layers individually, for the purpose of scheduling them as separate components, and setting-up various calculations for material ordering, such as panel spread, gauge, material thickness, etc. which means that we would like the individual components to be parametric.

 Therefore, we choose to create a nested family for the purpose of being able to schedule the composite panel as a curtain wall panel, and schedule the individual components under the specialty category family. So far this has worked as planned.

The current challenge is getting the nested family or three layer composite panels to adjust to varying curtain wall heights. They currently tend to insert at the same height which they were create due to not being able to lock the top and bottom edges of the three panels to the same ref plane.

Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.


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Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:57:10 AM | Need Help Aligning /Locking Nested Components to Host Curtain Wall Panel

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Did you ever get an answer to this question or figure it out?  I am having the same issue.  thanks

 


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