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Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:33:11 AM | How can I keynote a line?

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I have not found any threads on this subjet and can not understand why....When I draw a detail drawings I use detail components and keynote them but I have also lines in my drawing that represent example a membrane layer, insulation and such.How can I keynote a line og space and use a keynote schedule at the same time? - or what do you do?


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Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:07:34 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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i would either create a line based detail component or create an in-place family and use symbolic linework which can be keynoted.

 

oh yeah and the in-place family way does not work in drafting views.



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Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:24:33 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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As long as you have a model element of any kind, you can point to it using any keynote.  So - point to something - anything that you know will not go away - using "user" - then simply move your pointer to your line.

 

CAUTION - If the element you pointed to goes away - so will your keynote.


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Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:18:24 AM | How can I keynote a line?

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As Alabaster2513 has stated, making a detail component can be keynoted, and THAT can be used in a section view or wherever (as far as I know; somebody correct me if I'm wrong) you place that particular detail component.  We use detail components for high/low-side eave trim as well as rake trim, profiles for drip-edge for metal fabricated building panels, and we build our wall styles so they have actual profiles for girt lines (sweeps) and drip edges, and the like (haven't figured out how do do the insulation yet, as it will have various lenghts and types for a wall/ceiling as per contract).  By doing this, you can assign your profile sweep a material and within that material, for the identity, you can keynote that as well.  Works great for doing sections when you want to keynote individual girts, drip edges, etc.; granted, you may have to make duplicates of the same material (with a slightly different name) to assign the keynote you wish to see; but it's worth it in the long run.

 

And to answer your question: as Alabaster2513 has mentioned, create a detail component;even if it means drawing a line (for example, a really LONG line) and simply dropping the detail component on that line so the keynote will find it

 

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Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:15:47 AM | How can I keynote a line?

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I have now tryed some different ways and I've come to this.Use detail component where possible, wood, masonry etc objects. As for membrane layers and insulation I think using keynote with "User" and "free end" is the best way. The main thing is that we use keynotes for all keynoting and NOT text with lines. Then we only have to edit the text one place - the keynote table.


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Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:55:25 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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ahhh harnessing the power of BIM... gets me all excited

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Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:29:06 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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This is a very old thread, but I am trying to understand the issue.  Is it true that it is not possible to place a keynote in a drafting view that is made up entirely of lines?

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Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:35:25 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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you would want to create the linework as a detail component in the family editor, then place it in the drafting view and keynote "user"

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Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:13:25 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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This is really helpful-Thanks.


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Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:35:16 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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Back to the original question:  You can't keynote a detail or model line, text, or annotation, etc.  To use keynote, item must be a family, either detail, or model.  You can tag a tag, but I've never actually found a family category Revit will accept for that, but you can "try".

Solutions to your issue:  What has already been stated, or just use a generic annotation for your keynotes in drafting views, do a search in the help files for "sheet notes".  Explains it all there.  Downside to this, is that you have to place annotation first, then add leader, whereas with keynote, Leader is already there and pointing at object, although you do have to navigate through, and manage your keynote file.


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Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:10:19 PM | How can I keynote a line?

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We use an invisible detail family which can be inserted in drafting or model views.  It just contains an invisble circle and can be used with user key-note.

 


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