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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:00:50 PM | Text Symbols?

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As a user of AutoCAD Architecture, and Revit, Each program offers benefits. I dont prefer one to the other overall, but for specific tasks each one handles things better.

The text in Revit is crap compared to AutoCAD. HOWEVER, Revit is a tool to accomplish a desired look. Dont get hung up on the way you have to manually place some text, or copy a symbol from the character map program. Use the program to achieve a result.

WW...up until a few years ago, you are right, Autocads leaders were not associated when you needed multiple leaders, however, now they are. So when comparing the two latest products, revits annotation has fallen drastically behind autocad, and every further behind Autocad Architecture.

The modeling however in Revit is much better than autocad or ACA.


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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:12:28 PM | Text Symbols?

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Thank you travistlo, you've hit the nail on the head.  Both AutoCAD and Revit have their advantages.  In my opinion modeling a 3D structure in Revit is very easy and I can see the potential to drastically increase quality assurance on outgoing construction documents.  However AutoCAD still wins when it comes to creating something useful.  I do believe that one day 3D models will be more useful for creating structures, but until then we still need construction documents and for that I prefer AutoCAD. I must not be the only who believes this because the majority of presentations I've seen that demonstrate Revit for creating documents strongly relies on creating details in AutoCAD and importing them into Revit.

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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 4:46:07 PM | Text Symbols?

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I'm so tired of this lame argument that Revit can't produce CD's compared to Acad. Look people, it's really simple.All things aside, you are creating them in ACAD using Lines, Text and Hatch (again, all things aside like text editing, blocks and what not.) Guess what, you have those same options in Revit. Why not model what you can and get all the benefits from that and use Lines, Text and Filled Regions for the CD quality that you are looking for?

 


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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:54:35 PM | Text Symbols?

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From the gallery (not mine)

We are adding 3D detailing similar to these to our projects

http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php?action=view&gallery_id=2442

but the majority of our work is still 2D details like this but they are NOT 2D and we don't draw most of it - just add some detail components and edit some cut profiles - the bulk of this is all 3D from the model:   Why would I want to have to draw it in CAD first?

http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php?action=view&gallery_id=1475

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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:31:20 PM | Text Symbols?

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WWHub,

 

I acknowledge that the use of 3D does serve an advantage, specifically to clarify complex construction.  However in my line of work, structural engineering, we will still rely more on 2D sections and 3D isometrics for clarity if needed. My experience with Revit is that more often than not, a section cut in plan translates into a rough representation of a detail in 2D since it's inefficient to model components such as angles, clips, anchor bolts, etc. in 3D. Therefore these components must be added later.  This is where AutoCAD comes in.  In these early stages of Revit, it is safe to assume that most users already have a fairly substantial library of 2D AutoCAD details.  Why would I want to cut a section in Revit and add necessary components and annotation? I wouldn't!  If I already have a standard detail for deck attachment, or beam-to-column attachment in AutoCAD than why wouldn't I use it? That's why Revit has the functions to import CAD and create detail views.  That is all I was saying with my previous post.

 

By the way, wasn't this thread about symbols in text and which fonts Revit users prefer? I wish someone would answer that question for me... Oh well.


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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:50:07 PM | Text Symbols?

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We use ARIAL - period

OK - I don't have Revit Structure but in our detail library, we have almost all of the structural and architectural detail components we need.  They are easy to find and place correctly because we have a very accurate model to locate them. 

NO - We don't like to use drafting details because you have to start from scratch.  Every section/detail/plan detail starts from a model call out first, if possible.  Everything is in it's proper place, if you have modeled correctly.  That is the power or Revit that you have not yet learned to use.   We only use drafting details for stock details that are used in multiple projects and even those we have converted from CAD because they are so much easier to change in REVIT.

Where we have to use filled regions or linework we do it even easier than we did in CAD because REVIT is always working with you aligning things.  Every detail/section ends up being a hybred of model and detail elements ... and if you have setup your families correctly, all of your material/component callouts are just a point/click away.

 

Most of us started out thinking we had to use the CAD details until we learned how to really use REVIT.  


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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:10:24 PM | Text Symbols?

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Arial works but it's missing the all-important centerline and plate symbols, two that I use almost daily. 


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Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:43:34 PM | Text Symbols?

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And now I think you are really asking ".... hey ... I can't fine a TTF that has a plate and a centerline symbol - an you help?"

 

And my answer could have been - why didn't you search the forums using "font"  you would have found this :

http://www.revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=2998

as well as this:

http://www.revitcity.com/forums.php?action=viewthread&thread_id=891

and several other threads with other possibilities....


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