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galambos

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Has anyone been able to attach kicker bracing (i.e. L2x2x1/4) between two parallel steel wide flange beams, while attaching it to the top flange of one beam and the bottom flange of another?

 I can't keep my bracing from snapping to the mid height of my beams.  It would be nice to be able to lock it to the bottom flange.  Perhaps there is a way with a non-brace family? 

 Thoughts? 

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Tengallon

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galambos

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Tengallon,

Thanks for responding to my post, but you may have misinterpreted my question.  I am trying to get the brace to go from the top flange of one beam to the bottom flange of the other.  Right now, it goes from the midheight of one beam to the midheight of another.  See attached pic. 

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Tengallon

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True I did misunderstand  your question. looking at your file the z direction will play a big part with the brace snapping to the flanges. I would use a named reference plane to align the brace to the location required.

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I was able to accomplish this by adding the angle as a "beam" rather than a "brace". I had to change the angles "element prop's" "z-direction justification" to "center". Again, based on our typical detail, I added a dimension from the bottom of the frame flange, to the "center" endpoint of the angle. After this I select the angle, the dimension highlights to blue, allowing me to change that dimension to 2" from the bottom flange which was my "start" point or low end of the angle. My slab was 6 1/2" and our detail called our for the center of the angle to be 2" below the top center of beam it was framing into. I couldn't however lock these dimensions so that the angle would flex with a beam size change. The modeler would have to correct this as sizes change untill we figure out a better solution.

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I was able to accomplish this by adding the angle as a "beam" rather than a "brace". I had to change the angles "element prop's" "z-direction justification" to "center". Again, based on our typical detail, I added a dimension from the bottom of the frame flange, to the "center" endpoint of the angle. After this I select the angle, the dimension highlights to blue, allowing me to change that dimension to 2" from the bottom flange which was my "start" point or low end of the angle. My slab was 6 1/2" and our detail called our for the center of the angle to be 2" below the top center of beam it was framing into. I couldn't however lock these dimensions so that the angle would flex with a beam size change. The modeler would have to correct this as sizes change untill we figure out a better solution.

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Pitufo067

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@teadipper

any update to this situation? This is the first post I came across with the exact scenario I am looking for. It would be good to know if there is a way to have the kicker attach correctly to the bottom of one beam and to the top of another in case one of the beams change size.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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