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sweetiedarling

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Hi -

i am trying to figure out how to control the way the wall layers wrap and close at a door insert. i have a masonry cavity wall (cmu + rigid insulation + air space + brick veneer), that is set to wrap the exterior layers at an insert. i insert the door, and voila the layers do indeed wrap, but they appear to wrap to the centerline of the wall. the veneer brick should just wrap to the face of the structural cmu back-up.

is there any way to control how far an exterior layer wraps around the wall? i've attached an image.

also, does anyone know a trick to make the opening in a wall wrap with a curtain wall insert?

thanks in advance for your insight!

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sweetiedarling

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Ok - i think i figured this one out. I added a reference plane, checked the box "Closure" under properties, and the location of this plane now determines how far the exterior layers wrap.

Still haven't figured out a good solution for curtain wall...

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coreed

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yea, the curtain wall is the one we all need a solution too. i think?

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GRINHEART

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Wall layer wrapping at curtain wall been resolved yet? I'm having the same issue. as well as wrapping at openings.

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arusso5

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Has there been a solution found to this yet?  I've been trying for a while to get my wall materials to wrap after inserting a curtain wall.

Any help out there?

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sweetiedarling

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i have not found any good solutions yet. my two workarounds -

1 - create a "dummy" window family that just cuts the hole in the wall and has no mullion or frame. locate the curtain wall in this opening, rather than trying to cut the curtainwall into another wall. the upside to using a window as the opening is that you can control the location of the reference plane that defines the "wall closure" line, which can be handy for masonry walls.

2- create a window family. this can sort of be a pain to model depending on the complexity of the curtain wall design, and obviously, you can't host doors in a window.

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kashifafzal

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Yes, to control wrapping of wall layers to wrap around doors and windows the good way is to use wall closure as told by someone already, but to wrap wall layers at ends of a curtain is not available in Revit, So far to my knowledge but there is a workaround i have just descovered.

After putting the curtain wall hosted into a Basic Wall family element, i insert wall opening at the/near the end of curtain wall, if the layers of wall are set to to wrap at insert it will do the thing.

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