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Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:29:31 AM | A Revit newbie jumping in with a new 20+ story high rise

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Hello all.  My office is just starting out a 20+ story high rise hotel project.  The whole team is new to Revit as our office is trying to make "the switch".  I'm trying to get the Revit project off the ground and I realize the question has been asked multiple times but what is the best way to approach the high rise with repetitive floors with a team of 2 people - maybe 3?  I've seen people say make the floors seperate files and link them.  Others say don't do that, make the floors seperate files and group them.  Others say don't do that, do all your work in the main model and divide it up into worksets.  I've started with the seperate file groups but reloading the groups after making changes in the floor file takes forever.  I'm starting to think I'm doing something wrong, or at least not totally right. 

Some other things - I'm guessing the structure, the envelope and the core will be independent of the floors, is that right?  And regarding the facade - if we are doing a curtain wall - is the curtainwall broken at the floors or would you make one giant 20+ story tall curtainwall?

The next thing I am looking ahead to is schedules.  We have multiple repetitve floors but the rooms & doors & other need to be individual and quantified.  Are the tags just created independent of the groups in the project file (currently assuming I am doing groups correctly but am probably wrong) or is there a way to make one tag that repeats, but when it repeats, the number corresponds to the floor?  You know - all doors on floor 8 are 801, 802, 803 but the same doors on floor 22 are 2201, 2202, 2203.

Thanks for the help in advance.


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Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:46:45 AM | A Revit newbie jumping in with a new 20+ story high rise

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Welcome to RevitCity.

wow, ambitious pilot project. keep us informed on how things go. Users here are always willing to help where they can.


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Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:15:57 AM | A Revit newbie jumping in with a new 20+ story high rise

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My office is just starting out a 20+ story high rise hotel project.

Certainly welcome.  My fist project was a 20 storey hotel.  Great learning, late nights, a few redos and I came out an 'experst' in record time.  I had to do a lot of testing to see if it worked as I wanted

I've seen people say make the floors seperate files and link them.

Make the project one file only and do not overdo the worksheets.  Just get the staff to work on separate parts.  The workshhets can be used to reduce the 'file size' by not loading some, typcally FF&E, Services, finishes 

I'm starting to think I'm doing something wrong, or at least not totally right. 

Each project is unique and they need unique (while simple) management. We sit down and plan the process first.  That is of course easier with experience Let me know when you get it 'totally right' :-)

I'm guessing the structure, the envelope and the core will be independent of the floors

They are all dependant on each other ?

And regarding the facade - if we are doing a curtain wall ......

A general rule is to model it the way you build it.  A multi level curtain wall,  is that -multi level so I would draw it that way.  The same for the core walls, culumns etc  Keep in mind the columns will be different on different floors, either in size or in reo configuration (important for scheduling)

We have multiple repetitve floors but the rooms & doors & other need to be individual and quantified

The doors will still be counted correctly and you can tag them induvidually.  This is part of the testing you need to do as I mention earlier

You know - all doors on floor 8 are 801, 802, 803 but the same doors on floor 22 are 2201, 2202, 2203.

That is an instant parameter and must be done door by door.  You start with door no 1 on the floor then click in the order you want and the number will increase automatically. Great work while watching a boring movie :-) If you get it in wrong order or later add a door, just re tag 

Keep us inform and please ask 'dumb' questions, but use F1 often and do small quick tests with the solution

No doubt, there will be many opinions on how to approach this.  That is why there is a forum. Otherwise we would just use one textbook 


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