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anfu

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Got a problem that I don't really get how it's supposed to be done correctly:

If you floorplans gets to big and you need to divide the to Dependent views to be able to fit a A1 drawing sheet. Then HOW do you present span direction symbols, area reinforcement symbols etc. That spreads between the dependet views?

If you extend the annotation crop region, then you can choose between seeing the complete symbol (wich is not good because then my drawing wont fit my A1) or don't see it at all. When the annotation crop region hits the symbol or dimension it will remove it completely instead of just showing whas left of it. 

Any ideas except making new symbolic presentaion component families?

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qthdad

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Can you post an image of what you are trying to do?

What version of Revit are you using?

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anfu

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I'm using RST 2009 WU 3.

Posted 3 images down here. First a large slab with area reinforcement over the whole slab.

picture 2: Duplicate view as Dependent, because I need to divide my plan in two. And when I cut my view with the crop region my symbol for area reinf disapears.

Picture 3: Extending my annotation crop region so it reaches the end of my symbol and then it appears again. But what I want is to crop the symbol just as it is so I can have one symbol over my slab then just divide my planviews in smaller dependent views.

Son't think there is any answer on this issue.... :-( 

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qthdad

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Yeah, you're right. It's all or nothing when it comes to annotations. For most annotations, such as text, it would make no sense to have partial annotation. But Revit is inconsistent. For instance, in Revit Arch, the UP and DOWN text and associated arrows  for STAIRS clip along with the crop region, unaffected by the annotation crop.

You would have to use model lines or detail lines in this case.

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qthdad

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You can use the Span Direction Fixed family, which allows you to specify the Top, Bottom, Left, and Right length. It's not the best but it could get the job done.

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anfu

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Yeah, it's about the same as making a generic family with symbolic lines in plan, and then make those parametric.

 It solves the problem in emergency, but still think it's weird that those kind och symbols are almost useless because in 9 of 10 projects you have to use dependent views. Or just crop a normal view.

 I cant see really why annotations would be threated different when you are croping a view. Of course you want to crop your annotations to?

 Greatful for your help anyways! 

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FJ22

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Have you tried to place the annotations on de dependent views? Cause I think that's the only way to do so. When you've got 2 views of the same floor you've got to put in 2 different annotations on the dependent view.

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