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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:10:41 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Hello!

I posted this thread in "Revit Building" chapter, but actually I have this problem in "Revit Structure"! Sorry..

So, while creating detailed drafts I discovered a problem that I don't know how can be resolved. I attached a picture, where it is possible to see, that section named "Detail 11" isn't shown properly, because layer with insulation and another layer with concrete don't go as far where section is made. How do you guys deal with such situations, is it possible to make the section show things right?



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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:29:14 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Hi, you must change the "Function" and put them like in the image attached, also you must check where is the core of the wall...

 



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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:45:14 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Please see my images again.. The second part of image is right, you see.. so the functions are set right... But when creating a section in 2nd part of image, you can see that detail is not displayed right. Did you understand what I'm talking about, or shall I explain more!?

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:48:59 AM | Wall and floor joints

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The image you posted is wrong from engineering site, because insulation layer and concrete layer above ends when the supporting wall starts, see my second image that is right. But when section is made in the second image, you must not see these 2 layers above, but revit shows them... You understand?

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:34:51 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Check out this item in your help, it will help explain how to control these issues: Applying a Function to a Layer of a Compound Structure

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:37:29 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Thanks, do you understood than one view is shown right but another is wrong?

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:50:15 AM | Wall and floor joints

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I took a look at help, and I have seen this page 50 times, i even have a paper printed out so I woul remember that wool materials go to [3] layer. I'll explain once more...

In the first picture I attached now you can see that the floor is joined to the wall. Also you can see, that the 2 layers abow dont go into the wall. This detail is right, and concrete will be pored in real life as shown in the picture.. This image is right, so the priprities of layers also are set RIGHT... Now when creating section named "Detail 11" placed inside the wall where only the lower layer of concrete divides this wall into two parts,  you have image Nr.2.  When you look at this image, you also see insulation and the top layer, but how come you see them it if you dont cut them? Even if the "Far clip offset" is set to 1mm. Do you undestand?

 



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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:51:43 AM | Wall and floor joints

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So, the first image (left) you have it's WRONG? the second (right) it's OK? this is right? and what do you want is in the left image only appear the 3 "Layer" , the concrete in bottom right??? ok if it is i think you can create a "Filled Region" with the pattern of the wall (yellow)...

OK now you change the images, i'm talking about the FIRST images you post ABOVE in the first post...

 



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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:00:36 AM | Wall and floor joints

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I see you understood, that revit is not showing it right! I was hoping to get the view right without hatching.

Yes, i changed  the images..


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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:05:03 AM | Wall and floor joints

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I wanted to add, that it is not my wish not to see the 2 layers above, this is how it should be when looking at the picture with Nr.1 and imagining how the section view would look if section would be made through the wall.. right!?

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:18:39 AM | Wall and floor joints

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I agree, REVIT does appear to show it wrong.  However, this is a really strange view that most people would not cut.  Looks like if you have to have this view, you will have to edit it.

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:31:28 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Thank you WWHub for admiting that revit shows wrong, because I bagan to thing that I'm not understanding the spatial solution. I have support of the beam there, that I want to detail, so this is the reason why I'm cutting there (see the attachment)

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:38:53 AM | Wall and floor joints

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I would just turn off the floor and add the hatch for the concrete only rather than trying to get rid of what you don't want.

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Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:42:08 AM | Wall and floor joints

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Right.. =)

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