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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:43:05 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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Hopefully this is an easy one to solve.

 

I am using Revit 2009.  I've been using the standard double hung windows from Autodesk and have come across a problem.  When you place the double hung in a stud wall with a brick veneer, the window isn't set in the stud portion of the wall.  It is placed in the brick portion.  This is incorrect.  Does anyone have a solution to this?

 

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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:50:31 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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yes, if you hilite your window you'll see a rehost bottun on top, click on it and then rehost it to the stud wall and then join the brick and the stud wall this way the brick wall will generate an openning for your window.


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:53:16 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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That was my first thought, but doing so makes the sashes appear reversed.  I want it to be completely accurate.  The bottom sash needs to be inside the upper/outer sash.

 


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:56:14 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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yes, if you hilite your window you'll see a rehost bottun on top, click on it and then rehost it to the stud wall and then join the brick and the stud wall this way the brick wall will generate an openning for your window.


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:30:23 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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When you pick in the window and go to properties, don't you have a "FrameOffset External" parameter to "Push" the window to inside/outside?

 


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:11:39 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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I am a bit unclear on the proposed solution.   Are you proposing that 2 walls are built and then joined to achieve this?  I also do not see a "Frame Offset External Parameter" in the window settings.    


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:31:34 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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Ty,

There's no FrameOffset in the properties of this window family.  I do have a "Wall Closure" option in the parameters, but that doesn't solve the problem.

 

I'm really at a loss.  Leaving the window as drawn will get some strange looks from the guys in the field.  I want everything to be as accurate as possible.

 

Do you have a family with the parameter that you described?

 

 


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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:39:46 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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There it is.... with this you can control the position of your window in the wall...

 

 



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Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:55:47 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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Ty,

 

Thanks for posting that.  It's not quite working for my current project.  I'm trying to figure out how to modify the existing double hung window family so that the window is tied to the exterior face of the stud wall sheathing.  That is how it will be built on site, and showing it as such on the drawings would be most accurate.  I'd be taking a big step forward if I could figure out how to create the correct parameters to control this.

 

There has to be a way to make it work properly.


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:48:57 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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Did anyone figure out how to do this? I am having the same problem and am searching for a solution.

Please help!!


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:03:02 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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You need to have a window family that has an offset feature built into it that will place the window in the correct area and still trim correctly.  The stock window is not built this way. 

 

Did you try Typhoon's window?  Did you look for other windows on this site?


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:17:58 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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I downloaded a few windows from the Marvin Website that seem pretty good.  I haven't tried it in a brick wall yet, but have a project I'm starting and will do so.

Hopefully we can find some way to make it work.  It really bugged me that I couldn't make an accurate section.  Some sharp guy in the field, like I was, would look at that and be wary of the rest of the work.  It needs to be accurate. 


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:05:35 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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WWHub - Is there somewhere you can direction me to a guide on how to make an offset parameter of this sort? Or how would I go about doing that? (I'm using Revit '09.)


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:17:15 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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CarriageStone,

 

Model based elements like windows and doors are for elevation, 3D and building section views and really are only nominal.  They are not meant for detail level views.  At higher levels of detail, you should turn off the window in VG and add detail components.


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Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:21:07 PM | Window Placement in Stud/Brick Veneer Wall

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WWHub - Is there somewhere you can direction me to a guide on how to make an offset parameter of this sort? Or how would I go about doing that? (I'm using Revit '09.)


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