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Mon, May 16, 2005 at 10:55:30 PM | Creating a Schedule showing all Assembly Codes

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I am a new Revit user. I am interested in creating a single schedule showing all of the parametric building elements that I have used in my multistory building model. I want to be able to filter this shedule by LEVEL. I also want this schedule to show me all the quantities of families or assembly codes (Uniformat Assembly Codes) that I have used to build my Building Information Model (B.I.M.) --so that I can begin to speak with a cost estimator. Aint it possible? It seems to be a dificult task for the B.I.M. (Revit). I have created grouping of Substructure, Shell, and an Interior Elements in order to make my basic building. For instance within the Substructure, I have placed a few types of Standard Foundation Walls, and a few types of Slabs on Grade, as well as Ramps, Storefront System(s), Doors, Partitions, and Staircases. Can Revit extract all the assemblies of building systems on the lowest basement level (Level B-3) of my model and display on one schedule all the quantities of assembly (not materials) present in the model? I hope someone can begin to speak to this issue. I am becomming quite frustrated. But hey, I expect this Revit-journey has many interesting views along the way.

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Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:23:27 PM | RE: Creating a Schedule showing all Assembly Codes

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I think something like you are describing is best handled by an ODBC export out of Revit and then using MS Acess or Crystal Reports to process the information. This does require at least a basic knowledge of databases and is not something I would attempt if you have not had experience with a relational database. There are some third party estimating packages that are now starting to make use of the Revit API in version 8. (WinEst) Below are a couple of more Revit related links you might be interested in: http://www.e-specs.com/especs-revit.html (links specifications to the Revit model) http://www.greenbuildingstudio.com/About.aspx (Green Building Studio energy analysis, Revit supports gbXml file output to this FREE service) http://www.winest.com/ (WinEst software that integrates with the Revit data) http://www.winest.com/repnet/varflash/Revit.html (flash demo of Revit/WinEst, new version of WinEst will read Revit database directly, no export required)

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Tue, May 17, 2005 at 7:04:56 PM | RE: Creating a Schedule showing all Assembly Codes

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Thanks for the suggestion --I did look into the web-sites. I still think it is important for Revit (AutoDesk) to make the BIM software more capable to array information in one application. This seems to be the promise that the actuality of Revit does not give as of yet. Anyway, I do understand that the OBDC export facilitates translations into other applications. Thanks, again.

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Tue, May 17, 2005 at 7:48:23 PM | RE: Creating a Schedule showing all Assembly Codes

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Revit does have the ability to do multi-category schedules, so that may meet some of your needs. As for the ODBC portion, databases are probably the one application that everyone should know and almost nobody does. I happen to have gone to database managment classes, so for me give me an ODBC export and Crstal Reports and I am off to the races. I would suggest that every Revit user who wants to take their knowledge to the next level take a course in MS Access or DB management. To give you a peek under the hood of Revit, I have sceen captured a few images in the attached Zip file. The DB Schema shows the relationships that Revit builds when exporting to MS Access through ODBC. This is quite a complex DB model we are dealing with here. The one thing you will not see in the walls table though is a "level" assignment. This is on the "wish list", but really hard to implement when you think about walls spanning multple levels and not every building's floor is composed of perfectly flat floor plates all at the same level. BIM and Revit are both relatively new concepts and it will take a few years for the software to mature. All I can say is in spite of it's imperfections, I would never give up using Revit. Tom

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