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Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:56:46 AM | Stair Shaft Creation

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I am having trouble with what seems like it should be a very common thing to do in Revit. 

I am trying to draw steel pan stairs in a masonry shaft around it.  Essentially fire stairs.  The problem I am having is that I cannot get a landing to occur at the top of the stairs, other than just the intermediate landing.  Thus, even when I use multi-level stairs I end up with missing landings on one whole side of the shaft.  It seems from my research that Revit wont let you have stairs that overlap over themselves, but this seems dumb considering this is how almost ALL fire stair shafts are made. 

Additionally, how would I go about detailing the landing/shaft wall bolt interface?  Thanks


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Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:08:30 PM | Stair Shaft Creation

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We all use floors on the floor side of stairs.  Landings at mid levels only.

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Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:56:03 PM | Stair Shaft Creation

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yeah I am aware of that workaround but was hoping for a real solution.  The problem I have with doing that is that the stairs that I am spec'ing are steel pan.  Having concrete slab landings on one side is not actually how they will be built, and thus I don't want to have to model it in Revit that way.  Not to mention the complication of connecting the railings.

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Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:43:36 PM | Stair Shaft Creation

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I think that what WW was talking about was to make a new floor/slab type.  Make it to be metal pan. 

 Another workaround that is frequently used its to make the top landing a larger stair while in sketch mode.

HTH

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Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:09:50 PM | Stair Shaft Creation

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justin was right - make the floor match your landing type of construction,

 

The problem with a landing at the top is that if you have side framing above the floor like you have on landings, they may go across your door opening.  If it is a floor and you really need to show this framing, you can add it as n edge sweep.  We just show it as 2d linework.


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Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:38:04 PM | Stair Shaft Creation

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ok thanks for the replies.  somebody really screwed the pooch on this one over at Autodesk.  Anyway - I guess I will go with the floor workaround, however I still am unsure of how to deal with the stringer miters.  On the Revit generated landings the miters are properly shown as each 'side' (as in the stringer and the landing frame channel) sharing an equal degree of mitering so that the profiles match.  If my floor landing framing is at 90 degrees and the stringer is at say, 35 degrees, the profiles on the end wont match.  Any ideas?

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