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Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:39:00 PM | Perplexing Family Problem...Please help!!

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I have a family of a bench, or church pew, that seems to have a reference somewhere about 30 feet away from the object. This makes it extremely difficult for me to work with the object in my project. 

Could someone please take a look at it and try to help me resolve this pesky issue. You'll have to load it into a project to witness it - the mouse will snap to a reference 30 some feet away...I don't know how or why this happens.

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Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:03:11 PM | Perplexing Family Problem...Please help!!

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well, i don't see any problem with this...

 


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Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:23:45 PM | Perplexing Family Problem...Please help!!

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When you build a furniture family, it has a left/right center plane and a front/rear reference plane.  That is in effect your reference point for your rotate, array etc. commands. 

 These reference planes are missing in your drawing and the actual pew is 34'-8" to the left and 8'-6" in front of this reference point.  That is why when you insert the family, your reference point is so far off.  You will need to get your componants and references lined back up with the center of your drawing for it to act like you want it to when inserted in your project. 

To see what I am talking about, open a new family and your pew family.  Select the pew from your old drawing and then paste aligned into the new family.  You will see where it lands in your new family.  If you get this back aligned with these planes, then it will act right.


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Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:28:19 PM | Perplexing Family Problem...Please help!!

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I can also add to that the reference plane property 'Defines Origin'. Although not the direct problem in this particular case it can be the culpret of similar problems.
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As well as the Center Left/Right and Center Front/Back reference planes, if you click on a reference plane and click the element properties button you will notice a check box for 'defines origin'. The 'intersection' of two reference planes that 'define origin' is the Base Point (0,0) of the family. When you insert the family into your project your cursor sits at this base point.

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Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:34:04 PM | Perplexing Family Problem...Please help!!

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I tried to re-define that on his file with his existing reference planes and for some reason, it did not re-define the origin.  Not sure what's up with that.  I haven't run across that problem very often.

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