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Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:12:16 AM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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I am in the process of creating specialty equipment families to be inserted into a Vision Center, but I am having a problem regarding the placement of the families.  If I want to have the family be a face based object that would sit on a countertop, say a microscope for instance, how can I choose to do that?  So far, anything I create sits on the floor unless I change the mounting height.  However, if I want to change the casework height, I would like the family to stay on the top.  Thanks for the help.

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Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:28:42 AM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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When creating the family select 'generic model face based' once it opens go to Settings - Family catergory and Parameters and change the family catagory to specialty equipment. model your item and it should load into your project as face based specialty equipment.

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:38:48 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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Thank you for the help, however, after I drew the family and loaded into my project, it still wants to attach to a wall surface.  Though I drew the family on a Generis Face Base surface, extruding the object up as I went, when loaded, it will only attach to vertical surfaces, so basically I need to rotate it 90 degrees.  Any suggestions on how to alleviate this problem?  In the family drawing, it appears correctly in both plan and elevation view.  Thanks

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:00:28 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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In the family editor, under settings, uncheck the always vertical.

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:29:59 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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Thank you again for the advice, and I know the "Always Vertical" box you are speaking of, however, that is not a a given option when I open the Family settings menu.  Is there anyway I can add that parameter option to the family?  Or is something that I should have done when originally choosing a template?

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:45:07 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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I have just checked my face based families (which all work fine and attache to any face - vertical and horizontal) and the always vertical box does not apply do this type of family. Are you able to attach your family to this thread

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:51:14 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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Let me know what you think.  Thanks very much for the help.

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:09:08 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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I just inserted your family into a new project, without making any changes, and it seems to be fine. It is attaching to all faces I choose (even faces on the item itself). Just make sure that you are selecting the right face when you insert it into your project (The face should highlight to indicate which one is being selected). Try inserting it using different views (3d) if you are still having trouble

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:22:01 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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You're right, I can attach to every face, but the instrument is supposed to stand upright, and everytime I attach it to a face, it comes in on it's side.  In the Family editor, I drew it on a face base that I thought was a horizontal plane, but from the way the component is coming into the drawing, it looks almost like the base was a wall to begin with.  I cannot attach the family to a horizontal face so as to have the unit stand upright.  It should not protrude off of the wall, rather, it should stand on a counter.  Thanks

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:42:18 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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With a face based item the modeled form will always remain in the same position relative to the face it was drawn on. The face, in the project, can be anything - horizontal, vertical, angled. So if you drew it in the family as if the face was a benchtop, and then inserted it into a project onto a wall or other vertical surface the item would seem to be sideways, similarily if you attached it to a ceiling it would be upside down. As far as I know there is no way to keep it upright when attaching to different planes

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Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:43:42 PM | Creating Specialty Equipment Families

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If you want it to stand on a counter make sure you are attaching (hosting) it to the counter top

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