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How do you make existing room tags appear in demo plan/phases? The phase is set on "new construstion," phase filter is "Show previous + demo." The walls show correctly as demoed walls, but the only room tags that will show up are the new constuction rooms' tags. How can we change the rooms/tags phase status to "demo"? Or at least make them show up once a room has been demoed?
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I've achieved this in the past by overlaying views on the sheet. That is, have another view set to Existing as the acting phase and have the room tags just displaying in that view and then overlay it.
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Hi, firstly, tags are not enities themselves, by that I mean they only show the attributes of a family or system object - in this case rooms, so the problem is not with the tags, but with the rooms. Rooms are phase dependent. You cannot show a room that was created in the exisitng phase in a future phase. You need to copy the rooms from the existing phase into the demolition phase, then also in the proposed phase if it doesn't change. HTH
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Also, can the tags be shifted into different phases. I accidently tagged my rooms in my new construction phase instead of the existing phase. When I open up the earlier phase there are not any rooms associated with it. I ended up deleting all of the rooms with the schedules (in both phases because some were tagged in both), but could there have been a better way? When I open up the element properties it shows that the ROOM X is in the new construction phase, but it is "greyed" out--not letting me alter that property. Thanks again!
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Understanding Rooms:
If any element that would change the parameters of a room (demo or new wall, new door, square-foot change, etc) were to change, the room information would become unstable so the room cannot extend beyond the static phase that it was placed in. If you think about it, every component in Revit is static, but with doors, walls, windows, or any other component, they are placed within a phase and remain unchanged until they are demolished. Any change between phases that would alter the static nature of a room (see above) would destabilize the room.
Setting up a Demo view in Revit 2022:
It is a workaround but the best I've found so far & it works in one view, rather than with multiple layered views:
1. Create a view of the existing phase with the phase filter set to Previous & New.
2. In Visibility/Graphics Overrides (In your view template if you will have multiple demo views), go to the Filters tab. At the bottom, click on the box Edit/New to modify document filters.
3. Create a new Rule-based Filter for each new construction phase of your project, calling it Demolition, or Demolition-Phase 1... (Make sure you have the new Filter set to Define rules).
4. Check every category that you may have items to demolish. (Some categories can't be added because they aren't phase specific)
5. Filter Rules: AND (All rules must be true), All Selected..., Phase Demolished, equals, Phase 1 (or whatever phase you are setting the filter for). Apply/OK.
6. Back at the Filters tab, Add your Demolition filter. Set your overrides in Project/Surface & Cut to show all of your demo items correctly in the view.
Remember: You will want to create a view template set for each phase & view type needed. Each view will be set to the existing or previous phase, allowing the correct rooms to show.
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