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Revit 2009. ive included a pic. The Beam Ive placed is in the right spot, but now I cannot see it in plan view. Ive gone to view props and it seems like it should be viewable (ive tried all the unlimited view options and still nothing)...And Ive gone to the visibility and grafics dialog to turn in on maybe, but I really dont know because I dont know which group should be unchecked in the visibilities dialog...but I also cant see it anywhere else in any of the views (using the residential templlate FYI) not the framing or roof plan...Im at a loss as how to make hidden / above items in plan show up! or where to look for them once youve made them invisible. ANy help on this is appreciated. Michael
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here is the pic sorry all
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Ummm.. I haven't encounter to this problem before, that I cannot see the element in any view... about Visibility/Graphics, for beams (if you create it from Tool Design - Structural - Beam), it should be under Structural Framing... and to unhide the permanent hide (you select an element, right click and hide element), click the bulb icon in view control bar under view drawing space & you can see permanent hidden elements in red... And when beam is not visible in floorplan, usually I do the same, change the view depth in view range under extent category in view props... but, if you still cannot see it, then, maybe there's another solution for it. I'm looking forward to see the solution for this problem too... If I encounter this problem, I can fix it :D
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OK, I did figure out how to get the rafters to view with the cut planes. but check this out. the cut plane is now right at the top of wall. the rafters show sliced off at that level. (see attached pic). if you raise the view plane then the wall lines get light and not cut sectioned....but you get the nice rafter view (like a framing plan).How do you get the walls to be thick cut and the rafters to show above head as dotted lines....this is the proper graphic representation? I can only seem to adjust the rafter as it can be viewed from below...
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Go to view properties-->select underlay and choose your desired level (underlays show plans as halftone in your current view). You should now see the beams as halftone. If not change the underlay. Use the linework tool (shown with red outline), change the linework to dash or whatever you want, then select the outside edge of the beams. Change the cut plane back to where the walls are being cut. If done correctly it should look like my pic.
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yo. The beams do not show in any other view in which to do the underlay thing. there is nothing except walls so far drawn on any other view..is this my problem?. what level should the beams go on? what about the roof? can I change that? I messed around with the refernce level in the element properties, but no change on the views. the beams show on no other view in the file....not on the roof plan, framing plans (which I cant underlay) or anyother wireframe birdseye view...:-( if I dont keep the view on the plan they get lost as there is no view that shows the items. What level are your beams and roof on in your sketch model you posted? Michael
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I don't think the wall thing should be a problem. To change a beams reference, select it, then click rehost in the options bar. You can select a reference line or pick a face. My beams weren't associated with any level. Before I drew them, I made sure there reference plane was the underside of the roof. Could you upload your project so we can have a look at it?
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thanks i figured it out.
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Well done. How did you manage to fix it?
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Well OK. So I was about to write that I started a new project from the default template, so that I could draw a room, beam rafters and a roof, exactly like you had drawn. and when you do this, the rafters simply disappear (because the view planes need to be adjusted.) then like you I used the pen to make the underlay stay on as dotted above; removed the underlay, reset the cut plane, and its cool. What I had a real problem with is this: the residential default.rvt template thats provided just completely sucks. IMHO. because the framing plans and roof plans didnt seem to have any settings that coincided with normal architectural graphics...(i realize this could just be me) and even when you overlaid level 2 onto level 1 the beam would never show up! it was weird. there it was on the level 2, but the underlay showed everything else but the beam, and I couldnt get it to show (this didnt happen on the default template) SO my solution is to move all the elements I drew from the residential default to the "basic" default....then I can do what I wrote above... btw, I could not upload the file. 2mb limit. 7 meg revit file. any suggestions? MIchael
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