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We use a lot of precast stairs on our industrial projects, especially at loading dock areas. I use massing to make the precast stair. I do not know how to put railings on these stairs. The method that I have been using is to embed a stair (don't laugh) into the mass and attach the railing to the embedded stair. There must be an easier way to do this. Am I on the wrong track from the get-go? Any suggestions? Ver 2009. BTW This is my first post. I have been using Revit for 2 years and I want to thank everyone assocated with revitcity for all the help I have gotten from this site. I would have taken a long walk off a short pier if it wasn't for your help.
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Hi, can you put some images of your "Precast Stairs" to see what are you doing? why don't use the Stairs command to create the stairs like do you want?
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I do use the stair command to make all other stairs, except, I couldn't make a stair look like a monolithic precast concrete stair with the stair command. How do you make it look like a solid concrete stair as you see at every warehouse loading dock. There is no "tread". There is no stringer. Just a block of concrete with steps. They have them in the download section (with no railings). I am sure I am missing something here, that's why the post.
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You can create a normal monolithic stair, then create in place a solid extrusion with the same material, i think it's more quick...
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If I understand you correctly, that's what I do. I put the railing on the monolithic stair made with the stair command, then hide the stair that I "embedded" in the mass so no "lines" of the embedded stair show through. The railing still shows, and the mass shows. Seems like a lot of stuff for such a simple thing. Then I group the whole mess and stash it for future use because there is a finite number of different configurations for these stairs.
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What i'm telling you it's (like the image attached), create a normal monolithic stair (light gray), then create a in place with extrusion the rest of concrete block (dark gray).... it's very simple, i think, if that's what do you talking about, you don't put the images to i can see.... you also can create a family with the right parameters your ONE stair and control with that the lenght, height, stringers, risers and do one, but i'm talking and i can't figure out if this is what you want....
Edited on: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:25:12 PM
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can you see the solid extrusion?
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Yes, almost exactly. I misunderstood what you were saying. This is much better than the way I do it. It needs to be all the same concrete color and no line so it looks like one piece of concrete. I'm sure that can be done? Thank you very much.
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"It needs to be all the same concrete color and no line so it looks like one piece of concrete." - it's the less of your problems, change the materials to the same - stair and solid... You welcome ....
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Has this been improved in the stair command as of 2015 or is it the same process to get the outcome?
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Your question is vague. Stairs changed / improved in 2013 - 2014 from what they were in 2008.
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The image of the stair above in the thread. The area highlighted in red: Is it still necessary to create this portion as an in-place family or has the stair tool acoomodated this option somehow that I am not aware of?
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You model like you build it. I doubt very much that you build this as a solid - correct? You would build walls, slab and a precast satir correct?
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A concrete precast stair is cast in place all at once. I guess one could apply that logic to a precast stair as well if there isn't a tool that specifically addresses a concrete precast stair as one entity (not made up of walls, stairs, treads and lower portions). I think what I am gothering is that their still isnt a way to model this exactly in the stair tool alone... is that correct? The stair in the pic is created using the monolithic stair OOTB tool and the bottom is a in-place generic model family. I was hoping to not have to do it this way. I would have thought they could have updated the stair tool families to make this type of standard and common stair.
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A precast stair is what I used. What you are talking about is a precast stoop and that is a diffent entity not available in Revit. Model as I did but use concrete walls and landing. You can then group together for placement in this and other projects.
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