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Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:27:42 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Does anyone know a way in which you can create a line type/style where it shows up in the project but does not print?

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Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:32:08 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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I think not. But you can always use Ref Plane and Ref Line whenever available. you can also group those lines (for easy selection) that you don't want to print and hide then just before printing.

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Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:28:50 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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in the print settings you can set the Ref-/work planes to non-printing.

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Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 4:02:06 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Another approach is to create a linetype in linestyles, then prior to printing, you can as said above, hide in view that linetype, or you can go to visibility graphics overrides and turn off that linetype under model lines.


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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:35:49 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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My solution to this was to create a new linetype (I call it Sketch, which is dashed, bright red and #6 wide so it's highly visible on the screen) and for each level made a "Duplicate with Detailing" view which is not inserted on a sheet.  I create my sketch / construction lines, notes to others, etc there in that view.  

 

Since I only hard print "Sheets", those views aren't included, so effectively the lines don't print.

 

Revit is in dire need of a Defpoints or No-Plot feature!

 

/start rant/

People often criticise those of us desiring more "drafting" features in Revit and say non-sense like "It's object based... it's not autocad... it's true modeling, etc.. blah-blah-blah...".  Well, this is fine if you're designing video game backgrounds, or animated movie sets... but if you're going to model something that actually is going to be built.. uh, you need drafting.  So, Revit, if you're going to take over the drafting world, give us some drafting tools!

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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:50:58 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Hi,

 

What's up with this 6-yr old post? Smile

 

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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:09:24 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Yea I know... 6-years and Autdesk still hasn't fixed it.  Go figure.


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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:11:40 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Most of us don't think it is a Revit problem but rather a process problem.


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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:31:21 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Watching the parallel history of where Autocad (Architectural Desktop) has come in the past 10 years with incredible things like Improved Tables, Text Editing, "Use Previous Plot", Object Snap Tracking, etc... vs. Revit's complete lack of attention to the annotation and editing process... it's easy to see that it is a feature problem.  The strange thing is how the concept of the features already exist in the same company -- and why they haven't been implimented into Revit is a mystery.  There is no need for the myriad of "work arounds" in Revit, if they would just incorporate some of the industry standard features that are present in many other systems.  Well, thanks for reading my gripes.  Not like there's much I can do about it anyhow except love it, or leave it.


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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:24:39 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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 "Revit's complete lack of attention to the annotation and editing process"

I have to disagree, I have no problem at all with the annotation and editing process other than long note blocks.  Non-printing line types is not even an issue, if you don't want a line to print don't draw it or use a reference line or create a line type that you can turn off when your printing.


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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:04:57 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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As an addon to teafoe's answer...

.... better yet, use a working view where you can have all this crap that you want  -  including non-printing text to yourself and others.

 

The above process is one of Revit's strengths but you have to learn to use the program, not try to make it work like CAD.



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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:14:34 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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WW, if you scroll up a few posts, creating a working view as you suggest is exactly my solution.

 

Look, we all get the inherent benefits of Revit over CAD, otherwise we wouldn't be using it... but it DOES need to be "just a little" more like CAD to make the actual creation of Construction Drawings more efficient.  It's not a matter of 'inventing' new things for Revit, just implimenting some logical, familiar tools that have existed for a long time.  It almost seems like a punishment for production people to leave them out.  :-)



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Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:32:58 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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I have a "beef" here at our office with users that add "construction lines" or tons of reference planes.  I really don't see the need of construction lines except in special occasions and even then, the item should be deleted after use.   The same with reference planes.  Sure, some reference planes are useful like center of building for potential mirrored elements.  OK - place that reference plane but name it and add do not move to the name.   Some alignment issues can be solved by using underlays, copy/paste picked levels, or using the align tool - including in temporary sections or elevations.

 

If you want a wall to go out 10', then draw it 10' using the temporary dimensions.  Don't waste time drawing a construction line.  Revit gives you lots of built-in alignment tools.  But if you do want a temporary line then make it temporary - ERASE IT!

 

PS - Glad to see you use working views.  You do understand view templates as well?  Linetypes can be controlled with view templates and therefore - NON-PRINTING!

 


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Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:46:58 PM | WWHub

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Quoting WWHub from 2014-01-21 12:11:40

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Most of us don't think it is a Revit problem but rather a process problem.

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Guidelines and other process work are important tools for excellent design, and ref planes and lines just don't cut it many times if your goal is to be outstanding.  If critical design isn't what you're looking for then sure let Revit wag the dog and keep moving with mediocrity, but placing the blame on the design process signals a severe lack of design knowledge.

 


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Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:07:22 PM | Non-printing linetype?

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Hah !  What a crock.

 

If you don't program then you have to learn to use the tools.   Design is crap if you can't document it and build it.


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