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Wed, Apr 6, 2005 at 9:23:34 PM | Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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It is standard in our company to produce frame & door type elevation drawings for each type we have in a project. I figured out that you can create a legend with legend components, such as front elevations of specific doors in the project. But my question is how do you dimension to the legend components since it doesn't recongize the snaps. Am I on the right track or totally offbase? Attached is an example of one of our AutoCAD produced Frame/Door type drawings. I am trying to produce something very similar. Thanks

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Wed, Apr 6, 2005 at 11:07:22 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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It is kind of anti-Revit like, but we just simply use a drafting view to do the door and frame type elevations. Once it is done once in a project, you can group it and save the group out to a network location to be inserted and modified in the next project. Tom

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Wed, Apr 6, 2005 at 11:26:18 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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Pre V7 we would create elevations of all the different types of aluminium doors and windows for a our visual schedule. V7 we woud use the legend component and draw detail lines over the components in order to dimension etc because of the no-snapping issue. (i understand this will be fixed in the next release...) We prefer these methods as to using drafting views as they will be updated if the family is reloaded and updated or a type changes size. HTH.

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Thu, Apr 7, 2005 at 1:35:06 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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One other small question, we only show different types of frame and doors and not all sizes. We normally edit the text of a dimension to read "See schedule" for the widths and heights. How do I override the text of a dimension? See attached image for example from the orginial post. Thanks

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Thu, Apr 7, 2005 at 3:57:46 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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You cannot "override" dimensions in Revit. What we do is place text with an opaque background over the dimension text that reads "see schedule". I've attached our Revit groups for you to insert and take a look at. Tom

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Thu, Apr 7, 2005 at 3:59:49 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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Our frame type group as well attached. Tom

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Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 4:39:02 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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The opaque background text works fine if the text is longer than the dimension behind it. What if the dimension is longer than the text? We tried stretching the text box but it only blocks out behind the text. We also tried appling a opaque filled region but it stays behind the dimension and not if front of. Any other ideas on how to get the dimension "blanked out"? See attached file for example. Thanks again!

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Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 5:19:05 PM | RE: Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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A couple of ideas: 1. Try adding "spaces" in front of and after the text "see schedule" set to centered paragraph style. 2. Place white filled region over the dimension with the text on top of region. 3. Create annotation family of a filled region and "see schedule" text. HTH Tom

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Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:24:02 PM | Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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I had the same issue and thought the best wat to handle it is to make a new dimension style with a MUCH smaller text size.  I just kept the same dimension style name and added DO (Dim Overide) to the end to help distinguish it.  Makes it easier to swith back and forth without having to search through all the dim styles if you have several.

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Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:49:00 AM | Frame & Door Type Elevation Drawing

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This thread referred to techniques prior to the arrival of RAC2009.  Revit 2009 will allow you to over-ride a dimension with text, but not another 'dimension'.  However you can fool that feature by using a hyphen in the dimension text but not the one you type on your keyboard.  Instead run the Windows charmap utility and choose one similar to the one on your keyboard and paste that one in your dimension over-ride.

 


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