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Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:36:59 PM | Building section callout visibility in intersecting views

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I have a building section (1/8 scale) that has a floor plan (also 1/Shadey as its parent view.

In the building section, I have a callout (wall section type, at 1/2 scale) of a stair. 

I have an enlarged plan (1/4 scale, with the 1/8 scale floor plan as parent) of the stair that the building section (1/8 scale) passes through.

The building section shows up in the enlarged plan (1/4 scale). However, I want to have the callout (1/2 scale) display in the enlarged plan

instead of the building section.

 

Basically I want the callouts on all of these views to reference views of finer scale, not coarser. Hence the 1/4 scale enlarged plan should show the

section callout of 1/2 scale, not the building section which is at 1/8 scale.  I know I could manually turn off the visibilty of the building section, and then create a new section that references section callout instead. It seems there should be a better way to this and wondered if anyone had any solutions.

 

using revit building 2009

any help is appreciated.


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Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:39:27 AM | Building section callout visibility in intersecting views

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Sections,elevations, levels & grid annotatiions are 3D-view specific annotations, meaning they always appear on all 3d views (except the 3d iso view) or unless you control them through visibility options. You just have to create a new section cut through your enlarged plan. Try changing the Detail view for a section cut.

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Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:08:54 PM | Building section callout visibility in intersecting views

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Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if I follow what you're advising though. The terminology here is somewhat of a hindrance so I've attached some screen shots of what I mean.
I trying to find a way around drawing a new section cut through my enlarged plan. I defined the view while I was in the building section weeks before I had created the enlarged plan. Now that I have the enlarged plan, I could redraw a section just north of the building section in the enlarged plan, and then copy over all of the line work and annotation from the section callout I had previously created, along with any detail callouts placed in the view. Then turn off the visibilty of the building section in the enlarged plan, and make sure I have the visibilty settings for the newly created section correct to make sure it gets referenced in the building section.
However copying 2d annotations from view to view is time consuming at best, and unsuccseful at worst. I'm hoping there's something I'm missing in Revit that fixes this problem, or at least maybe a better workaround that somebody has used.
again, thanks for any advice


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Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:03:01 PM | Building section callout visibility in intersecting views

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Your descriptions are very confusing....Here are some rules that you need to uderstand. 

When you create a call-out, it will show the sections that were created in the parent view but if you cut sections in the call-out, they will not show in the parent view.  So cut them in the right place to begin with.

... if you don't then ....

Transferring 2d work from one sction to another section cut in the same place is easy.  So for your problem, recut your section in the parent, it will now show in both, (hide it in the call-out if you want), open your detailed view and filter it for all the 2D stuff, copy to your clip-board, open the new section and paste aligned current view and it will all be there.  Now you can delete the unwanted section.


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Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:40:58 PM | Building section callout visibility in intersecting views

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Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the help. 
I apologize for the confusion, but I'm trying to be very specific about what my problem is to get at a specific answer.  
I'm aware of the rules that dictate which call-outs and sections are visable in newly created views. What you describe is the default where Revit hides callouts and sections created on a view with a finer scale than the view in question. This can be over-ridden in the callout or section properties by adjusting the "hide at scales coarser than" instance parameter to something other than the default value.
As for transferring 2D work, I've used the method you describe but I try to avoid it as things like keynotes, which are tied to elements, sometimes have difficulty copying.
To solve my problem what I had to do was change the properties of the "child" callout to have no parent (in essence orphaning it). After doing this both the building section and the orphaned callout of the building section showed up overlaid on each other in the enlarged plan. Then I manually turned off the building section in that view.
Thanks again

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