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oh oh oh and one more...... no textures in viewport? LAME LAME LAME :D if i use custom textures i have to render to find out how everything turned out.
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. . . . . and I have a good feeling that REVIT has a few things that ArchiCAD cannot do. That's a different topic all together. Outside REVIT's challenges with Log walls and Roof shaping tools, I suppose we need to explain to the 'bosses' that the REVIT community has historically stayed  and thrived) all on the same platform. Until 2010 that is. I am REALLY hoping that goes away on the next release. When you eliminate the file format problem the road becomes much more smooth.
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Wow are you serious?!?!?! No textures in viewports?!?!?! So you want the database of Revit with the features of ArchiCAD with visualization of Sketchup? Does that about sum it up? How about embracing what is has rather than what it doesn't. The backward compatibility is a joke. Try using this in a company setting and see if it actually is an issue or just like Hub said, it's not a problem if you don't let it become one. We don't have this issue and we collaborate all over the country. It's just something to discuss in the kickoff meetings..."Do we upgrade or don't we? That is the question?" If you work with a consultant that for some odd reason doesn't have or won't upgrade...then you don't. I would wager that even the mighty ArchiCAD has issues that are caused with the backward compatibility. Like an issue they had a little while back where it closed when trying to open down saved files...nice. And the live textures...awful idea. Texture mapping is always an issue then and people tend to get fixated on it for days. Plus the live textures usually look like crap.
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:D LOL WOW Hey live tectures not tupose to look all amazing in revit.....just to know if the sclae is right and aproximetly is it ok with one thing or another...I'm almost 100% sure that Archicad has issues of it's own that revit does not have... but you are trying to convince me that versatility is BAD...and beter viewport aperriance is BAD... (all of a sudden i hear MJ-BAD in my head lol) .... how about huge amount of ppl that didn't apgrade their software? at these time (financial crysis) A LOT of ppl didn't have money to upgrade .... (as far as i know only 1st year it is "free" ....you have to look for ppl who has the same version of software??? c'mon ppl, stop saying it is ok cause it's NOT.... it's wrong and you know it.... this is the same as to deny obiosness ....P A T H E T I C ... black is black and white is white....stop saing the oposite 
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That reply is hard on the eyes. REVIT Subscription fees of $750US / year ensure you always have the latest version of REVIT. That's $62.50 a month. If your business cannot afford $62 a month / person to pay for their primary working tools then you have bigger issues to worry about. If you are not on subscription you are either: a) A student >> oh well, keep learning as best you can b) Making bad decisions >> wake up and get on subscription c) A pirate >> no one cares about your problems Black is Black White is White REVIT 2009 is REVIT 2009 REVIT 2010 is REVIT 2010
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For a minute u almost convinced me in that this Autodesk concpiracy with subscription is the most amazing thing that can happen to me, whitch is absolutely NOT. You are good i'll give you that! You should be a salesman or smth I'll stick to my version....versitility should be left at some level... now it's just not there...
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I totally understand the lack of ability to create the backwards compatibility, However, as a content developer, the need for a bit of unification is clear. Not everyone has that $750 a year necessary to be a subscriber, and moreover, not everyone WANTS to upgrade every year. That is why subscribers get a special tag at AU. To make them feel special. I am in a position where I need to give the best possible solution for the masses, not those with the most current version, so I am frustrated when the Family editor cannot manage this. I can see where difficulties arise at the project level, but creating a scenario similar to Proxy graphics, or automaically creating non-parametric, fixed solids in cases where newer technological solid modeling (Swept Blend) is leveraged. Just as MEP parameters are greyed out in Architecture, Parameters unavailable from previous versions become static (or even removed is fine... I know the limitations here). You can't make Revit sound like its this amazing tool that is far too superior to enable backwards comaptibility... Even Vista <Shudder> could work backwards, and besides, if the competition can do it, then the only honest reason I can see for Autodesk not to do it is to generate revenue, unless it really is the fault of the programmers (which based on what I have seen from the API team, i sincerely doubt). I don't mind paying MY dues, and will continue to do so, but until there is a compelling reason to upgrade past 2009, all of the families I create are staying put. Developing Revit content is about everyone... (Ok every REVIT user). My 2 Cents for change...
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Good comments. I have yet to open a family from a previous version of REVIT and give me trouble. If you are making 2010 content and someone has 2009 then they are hooped. Plain and simple. The business of content creation is frustrating and not easy. Never has been. Especially if you are trying to make a $$. I would advise anyone putting their eggs in the 'content creation' basket to have a solid alternative plan in the wing. Soon there will be many many people capable of creating content. If you cannot afford $750 once a year then you don't get to use the latest version of this tool. REVIT is not for the casual user or part time designer. It is for people in business with a budget to support the cost of running that business. If the color of the AU tag gets under your skin then I'M not sure what to say. AUGI Beer bash ? Just because the competition includes backward compatibility doesn't mean you have to? That makes no sense at all. Do you have to do what ever the competition is doing? What if they are doing things wrong? I have no doubt that subscription is used to generate revenue. Autodesk is a public company. I think they have to try to show a profit. I would actually prefer a 18 / 24 month cycle myself instead of 12. REVIT is not the be all end all. We know that.
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That's the point that oponents are doing it the right thing for their ppl that pays them money, this is WRONG cause it leaves me without any right to not subscribe.....what if i don't whant to spend 750$ anymore i just want to stick with this version for 3-4 years....and i don't want to spend cuople of thousand dollars at end of the year....i just want to keep using this version....Autodesk says ok u can do that but u will have a big problem when you start to work with a company that has a new version of the same software....u just don't have a choice budy > SUBSCRIBE!...whatever man... this discussion is going nowhere, you have your opinion and i have mine....
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