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twhisker

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I am trying to create a detal component for metal lath.  Please see the attached CAD file for our office standard which is a long triangle on it's side.  I have tried every possible way to make this happen easily and nothing seems to work.

There are a lot of problems with repeating details:

1) You cannot keynote it!!  That is just a load of crad Autodesk.  Pure and simple - you keynote detail components.  Why would you assume in your infinite wisdom that one would keynote a detail component and not a repeating detail component. DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!

2) The detail component loaded into a repeating component is a fixed size.  Yes it works wonders when you are drawing in a jagged line.  But it does not come out right.  If i use "fill available space", There are gaps at the ends of my lines because another full detail will not fit in the repitition.  "fixed distance" and fixed number" do not work either.  the nearest solution is "maximum spacing" but the problem is that it overlaps the detail in order to fit and itlooks messy.  the BEST solution would be for the detail to scale in order to fit a full piece within the given distance.  We upgraded from ADT 2006.  It has an awesome detail component manager.  With that, I am able to draw linear components that do just what I am looking for.  How can this not be available in an apparent "upgrade" in software.

3) You cannot place a repeating detail component within a component.  I would love it if I could have a linear component that would draw the gypsum and the lath with one line.

Autodesk desperately needs to improve linear components, repeating detail components, line types (give us more than dots and dashes please!!) and filled regions (dont get me startyed on the lame and archaic method of programming lines that can go in 2 directions only)  Go take a good hard look at the ADT detail component manager and line types - it is far more robust than Revit.  We are almost better off doing details in CAD and importing them into Revit.  I am the biggest revit advocate you have ever met, but this is just plain intolerable.

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rascal

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1. In order to be able to tag a detail component, you must first load in to which tag you want to refer.  this can be done one of two ways:
   • If you click on either 'tag' or 'keynote' in the drafting tab, then go up to the 'tag' button in the options bar, you can browse to select which tag you want to reference for each component type.  In this case it would be a keynote tag for a detail component.
   • File menu>Load From Library>Load Family
2. I agree; this method is not ideal and this solution creates a lot of new problems in its wake.  It would be much easier if things other than 'dot' or 'dash' were available in the line style editor.  Hopefully in v.2009!!!
3. I have no experience with this one, but I imagine you could cut the linework out of each of the singular components, paste them into a new family where they happily coexist in the same model, and then import that as an independent, third detail component?  Sounds like it should work, although yes - it is a workaround.

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Oops!  i forgot to post *my* newfound beef with detail components - I can't seem to make it a greyed-out line!  I want to represent existing fence with a grey linetype, new fence with a black one.  In spite of the fact that I modified the family to include grey colored lines, it will not poull in that way, and doesn't give me this as a parametric option anywhere either.  Grrr!!!  Autodesk, puh-LEEEZ make linestyle editor more complex!

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