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Hello All,

I posted here about a month ago asking about tolerances.  I have a building shaped in plan like a heart, or a bean, (extruded straight up, single curvature) It consists of 4 different curves, all needing to intersect.  I was able, using the pythagorean and constraints (btw, thanks for the tips) to achieve a high level of intersection accuracy.  The different curvatures for the walls meet up and trim/intersect nicely.  The only problem is placing windows or doors at this juncture - they can only be hosted by one wall.  

I have tried an in-place wall family but I am unhappy with the lack of wall features associated with this method - doesn't join (clean up) with a non-in-place wall, doesn't have the quick layering of materials and thicknesses.  

Are there other scheduling, analyzing issues associated with the in-place wall to be aware of?

So my question is, does anyone konw of any way to insert a window at the seam of two typical walls with different curvatures?

Or, if this is not possible, what should I be aware of with the in-place wall family?

thanks for any advice or direction,

will

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Ouch ... this looks like a headache.

If the window works ok to cut the ome wall but not the other, would an opening hosted in the other work to help you to cut it ?   Not a clean solution but ?????

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Headache, a bit, a good challenge though!

So you mean, make two windows (willy wonka style) i.e. "half windows" hosted on either side of the seam that join to look like one?

I have done this, however there are several problems:

- it doesn't look very clean because the windows are positioned at different angles and,

- you now have double instances where this situation occurs which is also a headache

So...there isn't a way to "Join" the walls?

So...my best bet might be to deal with the in-place family for what it is?

a side note - the in-place family is a little disappointing then, no? -

I mean, it says it is a wall, but it really is a mass!

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it wont let me,

download the file and give it a try, maybe i'm missing something obvious

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The problem is actually with the window and not the walls. You can have a window cut multiple walls, try it with two straight walls. The problem is that the window can't match the two different curves of the walls. If you try to move the window over a bit you will notice that one of the wall edges will go right through the window but it will actually cut the other wall. So what it happening is the part of the wall not getting cut is not actually intersecting with the window. Try looking at the interior side and you should see that it does cut completely through.

This leaves you with a few options:

1. make a window to match the curve

2. create the wall inplace

3. the easy one: pick the wall the is not getting cut all the way and pick the opening option from the options bar and remove the part showing.

HTH

Brett 

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it wont let me,

download the file and give it a try, maybe i'm missing something obvious

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ahh yes, 

an opening, thank you, that seems to be the best solution.

What's with the in-place wall family though!  - a sloppy seconds alternative?

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Well, I guess it could be sloppy seconds the way I typed it...just seems to have a few issues with it as you have found out.

Plus inplace families can be a hinderance on your file size. (when done in excess) 

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ahh yes, 

an opening, thank you, that seems to be the best solution.

What's with the in-place wall family though!  - a sloppy seconds alternative?

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