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@johnkinder,
You have been a member since 2013 and have not contributed a single thing to it. The whole point of this thread spun out of control because of a person or person liek you who do not believe Revit is a good tool. If you take the time to know the entire program it is a great tool and one of the best out there. I'm sorry you cannot comprehend that but it is what it is and the industry is adapting it, so get on board or go somewhere else. If you don't like that your company"bought into the Autodesk sales pitch so I have to use the software for the time being" go and tell your president how stupid he is for falling for Autodesks subpar programs or better yet go out and start your own company and use whatever program you feel is better. Best of luck to you.
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Well that's putting it a little more diplomatically than I would and I might add that REVIT is not one of the best, It Is head and shoulders above and beyond the rest because it is THE BEST.
Is it perfect ? maybe not but neither is Microsoft, or Apple or Adobe any other large software company. People who use a tool to make a living and complain about it because they don't have the intelligence or skill to use it properly should give up and go find another more simple tool (like perhaps a pencil and paper) instead of continuing to use it and complain about it. To do otherwise is idiotic and demonstrates lack of intelligence with very poor social skills.
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Not to be a downer, but as someone with a background in software engineering (from Humber, but to be fair, most my actually important knowledge did not come from college) both revit and autocad are amazingly broken considering its price tag and general acceptance in the feild of architecture.
The bugs in both seem to be bountiful.At some point i decided to change a number of things in my life, including my career feild. As an architectural tech student (in my last semseter, now) i am amazed that people are willing to spend what they do on it and get out of it what they seem to.For a piece of software that involved and expensive, that seems to drive such a large amount of the feild now, i have trouble believing that it works as it seems to... yet here we are.
And im currently using the more mature 2016 version while pining for the 2014 version (it seemed to crash a lot less for me). Hell, for my purposes 2012 worked even better as it was smaller and i do not need all the M and E families.Could you imagine if autodesk produced mission criticle software like the kinds that drive laser eye surgery equipement? Would you want to be the guy under *that* laser?At this point, with the amount of time the company has had to fix it, and it's yearly supposed maturation in the software i'd expect more. More so for the price.
At the very least, for the yearly price, i would generally expect the title to get better with every new addition and yet it doesn't seem to be the case.
cough2015WithoutHardwareOptimisationCough
I should also mention that i haven't really checked out the competition, yet (thinking of archicad, for example) so maybe it is the best software for the job (?) but it's pretty crazy to me that it is what it is.
Man, even the autodesk website is crazy poor to navigate. I find its actually easier to fix something like that forgetful materials library by using a pirate (that contains the appropriate MSI file) then to actually find a fix on/through the website. It's not a good thing when the pirate is easier to use then the legit copy.
Just my 2 cents (and i am aware they aren't a very valuable 2 cents on a revit forum site).
BTW this site rocks my socks for families - you are all making my student like WAY WAY easier and i thank you guys for that! 'Totally worth my 2 cents! =D
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Hahaha..
This guy is over acting...youtube it man.
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wow im guessing orignal poster was making a joke but i used autocad for nearly 11 years and only in this last year finally at a job that uses revit, before this i was typical cad monkey rage against the machine no to change i aint learning revit, but now only after a short year i appreicate revit and what it can do, i prefer it over cad now.
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that is all that it was, resitance to change.
do you think mechanics liked all the changes in recent years w all these electronics embeded in to what used to be pure mechanical ?
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I agree that change takes time. Revit is a new generation of software, and many tend to forget what BIM stands for. For instance some still use Excel to manipulate and present data from Revit. We believe that data from revit should always be shared directly from Revit to prevent manual processes that can lead to outdated information.
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Not to be a downer, but as someone with a background in software engineering (from Humber, but to be fair, most my actually important knowledge did not come from college) both revit and autocad are amazingly broken considering its price tag and general acceptance in the feild of architecture.
The bugs in both seem to be bountiful.At some point i decided to change a number of things in my life, including my career feild. As an architectural tech student (in my last semseter, now) i am amazed that people are willing to spend what they do on it and get out of it what they seem to.For a piece of software that involved and expensive, that seems to drive such a large amount of the feild now, i have trouble believing that it works as it seems to... yet here we are.
And im currently using the more mature 2016 version while pining for the 2014 version (it seemed to crash a lot less for me). Hell, for my purposes 2012 worked even better as it was smaller and i do not need all the M and E families.Could you imagine if autodesk produced mission criticle software like the kinds that drive laser eye surgery equipement? Would you want to be the guy under *that* laser?At this point, with the amount of time the company has had to fix it, and it's yearly supposed maturation in the software i'd expect more. More so for the price.
At the very least, for the yearly price, i would generally expect the title to get better with every new addition and yet it doesn't seem to be the case.
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Pretty sure the price is not based on the products capabilities diirectly but the fact that entire businesses earn their profits from using the software. For roughly $5,000 a station for the software that is very minimal cost considering the millions of dollars companies make from suing it.
I can almost say for certain that the money earned from the sale of their software does not all go directly back into the software. It goes into developing new software, expanding their poftfolio of services and products and also into the pockets of the executives. Welcome to capitalism.
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Just an FYI. The creator of this thread poste it and only one other time. He has never been back and his blog ended about the same time. Obviously, he was very ignorant about the use of Revit. ( For those that think ignorant is not PC, look it up.)
I have pretty much stayed out of this post but I have to respond after reading marmiketin's post. It appears that marmikiketin's lack of experience is also showing.
I'm old! My first job doing hand drafted shop drawings was in 1968. I finished architecture and got my license in 1975. I had my own practice where we produced all of our drawings by hand. The rule of thumb then was one week of drafting per sheet for the project but that was a minimum. Coordination and revisions were problems. I added word processing using an Apple III - long befor IBM PC. I wrote my own modem program for my 300 baud modem and I subscribed to "The Source". A text only based system out of Columbus Ohio that was a fore-runner to the internet. My Apple III had a $2000, 5 meg hard drive and two floppies. I used that to write my own database program in pascal but I never sold it. Too slow to market.
Sometime in the early '80's, I discovered AutoCAD 2.6. I was chief architect at a large A/E firm where they had gone to VersaCAD. I showed them AutoCAD and it blew away VersaCAD but both of them changed our lives. These were really primative programs. NOT WYSIWYG ! But they were an improvement over hand drafting. Early CAD 3d, single line, hidden line removal perspectives were started on Friday and still running on Monday if they did not run out of memory. I wrote my own lisp routines and I had script files so I could control my views to different UCS orientations so I drafted in 3D with 3D walls.
In 2001 or maybe a little later, Revit (Not yet owned by Autodesk) sent me a free copy of their program - 3.1. I still have that on my desk. It wasn't until 2006 that I got around to learning Revit. Hated it! I was so good at AutoCAD and I couldn't make Revit do what I wanted. I was at a new office and doing my AutoCAD tricks so they thought I could pick this stuff up. They were right. WOW - I can do WHAT? Within 6 months, I had done a parking garge next to my AutoCAD hotel I was also working on. I did the garage all by myself and it was complicated. Here was my only post on it:http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php?action=view&gallery_id=2879 After the office saw how well it worked, I taught our staff of 50+ and I with a couple of other guru's set up all of our standards. TGhe office has been fully Revit for almost 10 years and nobody wants to ever think about CAD (except when we have to!).
I think we need a new thread to contrast this one. WHY I LOVE REVIT!
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Wow... If there's anything, I would post my rant too.. my rant about how I hate Archicad as opposed to the TS, I am obsessed with Revit.
Revit will limit your creativity? Yes of course if you are just beginning to use it as with other softwares but there are indeed "other" modeling softwares that are very easy to learn (sketchup) and thus allow you to express your creativity earlier. But the reward in mastering revit while equipped with creativity is something to be hailed as an achievement.
I recently severed my contract with my employer of 2+ years. The company uses Archicad as its BIM platform. Being in a third-world country, I can't blame the company because archicad is offered cheaper than Revit arch. For two years, I had so much frustration with Archicad having coming from a Revit intensive firm before. Archicad is what I personally refer to as "fake" BIM because really, information within the model are not as tied as compared to revit. It is so in-efficient that creating your own objects have a very steep learning curve, making it parametric almost requires you to be a programmer. The detached information is what they call "freedom" in Archicad as Revit has very "strict" BIM handling methods.
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Dear Designer
Everyone has their own preferences. some people hate something for nothing.
If i want to hat ArchiCAD, i can tell something. but the ArchiCad expert will just laugh only.
Revit is for BIM, if you need BIM, it is one of the most powerful tools for acheiving BIM. it is not developed for just making a dimension for nothing.
ArchiCad definitly a great program, but Revit too.
but any software, depending on the experience, you can make things creative. Creativity is not in the software, it is from human brain.
it is better to use, pencil and paper for creative idea development, once you get idea, then convert to revit.
BIM and Dimensioning has big difference.
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