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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:40:52 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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WHEN I APPLY A COLOR SCHEME TO A VIEW IT SEEMS TO COVER MY DOOR SWINGS. THIS HAS ALWAYS WORKED FINE FOR ME IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS, SO I'M GUESSING ITS A BUG OR SOMETHING.  ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THE COLOR SCHEME IS SET ON BACKGROUND.  I AM USING REVIT ARCHITECTURE 2011.

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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:25:15 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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Works fine for me in 2011.  What doors are you using?  If your own, do they have symbolic lines in floor plan?  Did you try using an OTB Revit door and see if it worked?  Is it just in a particular project?  Did you start a new test project to verify?  Did you create a new view to test in the existing project?  Are object styles over-riden in the view?

I'd be very very careful about throwing out the bug idea until you have done the basic testing as it is very very unlikely it is a software problem.

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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:58:22 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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O.K. GENIUS.  IT HAPPENS ON MULTIPLE DOOR TYPES BOTH AUTODESK'S AND MY OWN.  I HAVE TESTED THIS ON THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND TWO DIFFERENT MACHINES.

 I'D BE VERY VERY CAREFUL ABOUT BEING A CONDESCENDING PRICK UNTIL YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS.


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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:27:08 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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Like Tom said NO BUG, works fine

 



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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:31:30 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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otto - You are way out of line!

 

First of all, we really do not like personal attacks on anybody.  Tom was not attacking you personally so why did you/

 

Second, the advice Tom gave you is correct.  Tom has been around this program longer than most in this forum.

 

Finally.  I too have no problems in 2011 as you can see from the attached image.

 

SO IF YOU WANT SOME HELP, QUIT FLAMING AND ANSWER ALL OF TOM's QUESTIONS!



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Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:00:51 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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The personal attack is to be expected by somebody who doesn't give the facts in their post.  My answer is generally in proportion to the thought put into asking the question.  Obviously I made the mistake of trying to resolve the problem of someone who clearly can't formulate a logical question with all the background facts.  

While there are sometimes true bugs in Revit, they are in fact so rare that before anyone even thinks there might be a truely undiscovered one, they are wise to have the situation peer reviewed lest they look like the uneducated user that they are. 


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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:03:52 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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I just updated a model to 2011 and am having this same problem.  Not to add fuel to the fire, but if it worked on one machine and not another, perhaps it is a bug?  I was wondering if you can set the opacity of the colors in 2011 but it doesn't seem to be the case.  When I was working in 2010 the door swings showed fine, and now they don't show in front of the color.  The doors used are out of the box Revit doors.


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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:19:41 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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Did you check VG, Plan swing is on - correct?

 

 


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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:16:52 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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I didn't have an issue either. The only thing I had was a small display glitch where the door swings are not immediately visible depending on how zoomed in I am, which probably has something to do with my graphics card more than anything else. That could have been the problem for our frustrated friend as well.

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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:37:58 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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The doors are definitely turned on - the ones that swing out are fully visible, but the ones swinging into the colored rooms are not.  Maybe it's a graphics thing, but we just got brand new 64 bit computers so I'd be surprised to have a hardware issue.  See attached image...

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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:56:55 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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I don't have any problem with this.

 



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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:00:27 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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This is more than likely a VG issue.  You need to do some investigating.  Turn off room fill and see if the doors come back.  Make sure those doors are not hidden in view.  Change your view cut plane.

 

If those tests don't point you in the right direction, start a new junk project with 4 walls, a room and doors and see what happens to that file.


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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:35:30 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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The doors show without the color, and I think specifically it's the door swings that are the problem.  I went into the family and they are set to be drawn in the foreground, and the color fill is set to be drawn in the background, so I'm not quite sure why they're not showing.  If I zoom in far enough (so the door takes up the whole screen) the swing shows up.  But when I print I'm getting the doors only, and no swings.  Are there any settings I can fiddle with that I haven't tried yet?Edited on: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:36:17 PM

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Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:37:01 PM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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Well at least you are getting something different than the image you posted before.  That did not show any doors so you did find something else wrong.  What was it that you changed?

 

Have you changed the lineweight of your door swings?

The doors and the room fills are both on the same level - correct?

You have looked at the settings for door swings and the lineweight is set correctly in the view and not over-ridden?

You have picked a door and checked its visibility to assure that the lineweights have not been over-ridden?


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Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:12:50 AM | DOOR SWINGS DISAPPEAR HWEN USING A COLOR SCHEME IN REVIT 2011

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Unfortunately nothing changed from the original scenario, it's just that I hadn't zoomed in to that extent before.  From what other folks in my office are saying, this is a problem only when you update a model started in 2010, so unfortunately it seems like a bug.  If anyone finds out otherwise I'd greatly appreciate your insight.

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