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Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:24:08 AM | views and sheets for revisions

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We number our sketch sheets for addendum's and bulletins using the original sheet number with an extension.  The sheet number is read - the extension is added.  I don't worry about duplicate sketch numbers from addendum to addendum.  The addendum or bulletin number takes care of that. 

 

I never re-issue a sketch.  As I said, the PDF's for the addendum / bulletin issued is the record. 


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Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:19:04 AM | views and sheets for revisions

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I don't like the idea of creating extra 8.5 x 11's because you can't combine views from different sheets or even opposite sides of the same sheet on one 8.5 x 11. This might be okay for a little project, but we would generate lots more drawings this way. I'm also not comfortable with the idea of printing a sheet and then deleting it.


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Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:07:25 AM | views and sheets for revisions

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The addendum sheet is unimportant.  The actual sheet is what is revised and that is not deleted.  The addendum sheet is just a vignette of that sheet so the record is correct in the project file - always.  The sketch sheet is part of the written documentation and that isn't in the Revit file is it?

 

You said:  "...even opposite sides of the same sheet on one 8.5 x 11..." - I don't understand.  Of course you can print double sided.  

 

I don't believe there is ever an instance where the image we want to print would be so small that we could fit two of these on an 8.5x11.  If we are just changing a dimension or a word and we can describe that with written text only, then we do that.  Otherwise, if you show part of a view, you have to include enough area to locate what you are showing and I just don't see how that can be that small..... BUT... You can always combine PDF's 


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Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:40:18 PM | views and sheets for revisions

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WWHub,

You're right, the pdf is the record document and sheet numbers for addendum are arbitrary. We also describe as much as possible in the written addenda.

Sorry. I wasn't clear. Let's say you have a 30 x 42 sheet and on it a complete first floor plan. You make revisions to the north entrance and south entrance, which are at opposite ends of the sheet. The entrance plans, when placed on an 8.5 x 11 take up less than half of that page, so you might want to put them both on one 8.5 x 11 rather than two.

I need to compose the 8.5 x 11 so that it can have more than one view on it. Example: a casework plan, elevation and section which may all fit at full scale on one 8.5 x 11 even though they come from different sheets in the contract doc's. I name the dependent View Name after the parent view's location in the contract doc's so you always know where it came from.


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Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:54:15 PM | dbillings3

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Quoting dbillings3 from 2010-09-14 10:19:04

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I don't like the idea of creating extra 8.5 x 11's because you can't combine views from different sheets or even opposite sides of the same sheet on one 8.5 x 11. This might be okay for a little project, but we would generate lots more drawings this way. I'm also not comfortable with the idea of printing a sheet and then deleting it.

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I'm just going to piggyback onto this older thread because this is the exact conversation I need to be having...

Dbilings...you mentioned a few times that you combine different views from different drawings on one 8.5x11 sketch sheet.  How do you reference the views on the sketch sheet back to the record drawings?  We're working on an addendum, and I thought it would be intuitive somehow if you made dependent copies...i.e. you drag the dependent copy onto the sketch sheet, use a reference title view, and it would populate what sheet the dependent view was originally on.  However, I can't seem to get the reference title view to reference the dependant view.  And if you just use typical view titles, it just numbers them sequentially...leaving the contractor to guess at what detail/plan area you're modifying.

I feel like I'm missing a small step, and its driving me nuts, because there's not much on it in the help (BTW...I hate the 2011 online help...blech).  Any input is appreciated.


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Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:21:39 AM | views and sheets for revisions

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Edelong,

I use the viewport view name to reference the original location. This is "manual" but it's just part of my process.

For example, I would name the view on the 8.5 x 11 something like, Kitchen Elevation - Refer to A1/A4.1

This is an easy way to track it back to the original location in the set.

Now, what I have not figured out is this: Can you suppress the callout tags for a detail, plan, or section view? I'd like the dependent views to not create callouts automatically because they overlap the original callout. I have to hide the dependent view callout tags individually.

I agree that 2011 Revit Help is a step backwards.


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