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I poked around the internet and I cannot find any documentation on creating surface patterns for toposurfaces. How is this possible. This is ridiculous. I am supposed to differentiate the grass, earth, pavement etc. simply with lines? As of now I am using filled regions which are a total pain as they sit on top of everything. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. I just dont understand how Adesk could leave this out -it is the simplest and most obvious thing. It's like they go out of their way to make common sensical things not work. Poor Landscape Architects btw
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Why don't you use the "Sub-Regions"??? Check in your HELP menu....
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A sub region, like the base toposurface, does not support SURFACE PATTERNS. What I am saying is you cannot differentiate between surface types without using color (ex. in hidden line). I need the grass dotted, the gravel pattern, the, the water pattern etc. Just like AutoCAD hatching. Sorry to bring AutoCAD into this but this is drafting 101.
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You create different materials for things like Site-Gravel and assign both a surface pattern and cut pattern to the material. Each sub-region is assigned a material then. Please read the HELP menu for materials and sub-regions.
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I have Revit 2010 installed, with service updates. When I go into a sub region or toposurface and change the surface pattern I get the following message "Topographical surfaces do not support surface patterns. The surface pattern associated with this material will not be displayed on the indicated surface" I am not an idiot -if youre not going to help please dont waste your or my time with an unconstructive answer. YOU read the help menu "...Select the surface material from the list. You can create your own toposurface material. Topographical surfaces do not support materials with surface patterns. See Materials." Now that we've established this, is there a workaround?
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Sorry...it has been awhile since I've done sites in Revit. I normally still do them in AutoCAD and link to Revit. What I have done is create and area plan and then set the pattern to the area. This gives me the area and pattern for the surface. I go even further and do a key schedule set to LEED permiable surfaces and calculate out potential runoff factors. That said the site tools in Revit have been a sore spot for a long long time. I don't think they got any attention in 2011 . A third party has come out with an add-on for Revit that is supposed to improve the site tools for Revit. http://www.eaglepoint.com/solutions/workflow/office/landscape/landcaddforrevit.asp  copy to browser) I have not evaluated these tools yet so do your research carefully.
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Thanks. That add on looks amazing but stuff like that should def be included in Revit -its very basic. If it wasn't $1000 I would buy it right now. Yeah the site tool is a joke but this issue is beyond any of its other limitations. I might try to use CAD for the site plan but from my understanding, the hatch patterns are not conserved when you input the geometry into revit -or do you just import the dwg? I just dont understand why we would have to use another ($5000) program to do this. Its insane. Its Revit Architecture -If you can't draw everything for a simple architectural project in one program thats a pretty useless program. It seems that the only way to work around this is to use filled regions which is absolutely ridiculous as for each drawing the filled region boundary might have to be changed and it would certainly have to be copied for every drawing (and re-edited in every drawing if changed). Plus, filled regions sit on top of everything except detail lines really so this is a nightmare.
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When you link in a site CAD drawing, you can show that as it was drawn in CAD for your topgraphy and use the 3d topo lines to create your 3D topography in REVIT. So - your hatches in CAD will work.
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Nothings perfect. And I understand your concern for having simple things like this all in Revit..but I believe this is why they call it Revit Architecture. There are ways you can make this "nightmare" a little easier as others have suggested but I'll leave that up to you. One idea is pick lines and the tab key.
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"Nothings perfect. And I understand your concern for having simple things like this all in Revit..but I believe this is why they call it Revit Architecture. There are ways you can make this "nightmare" a little easier as others have suggested but I'll leave that up to you. One idea is pick lines and the tab key.Edited on: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:51:17 AM"
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It is Revit Architecture and the site we currently have is really just for modeling. Revit does not like the tiny increments you need to do site work. So - Leave the site in CAD for now and import/link in that drawing.
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About this issue what i do: I create the site like i want (Road, Parking, rides and so one) in CIVIL 3D, then i import that site to Revit, in this way i have almost 90% of my site (topo) done in Revit, the other 10%, i adjust in project, the sub-regions, materials...
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So now I have to purchase and learn THREE programs to do one's job... haha okay I'm done no more I promise
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Look - do it all in Revit if you want. You can turn off the model site and draw the contours - pvmt - fills just like in cad. Gheez....Tired of it.
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I see words like "architecture" and "building", etc. Not words like "scraping dirt" or "grading" or "landscaping". If you're trying to use a program for functions other than what it designed for, then you MUST find other resources to get your job done. Geez... adapt and overcome, my man. If people focused more on the solution rather than the problem, more progress would get done. btw. You don't have to purchase any other software. Autodesk offers free trial downloads. Figure that one out.
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