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stefan89

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Fair comment and i know it is advanced with its parametric and collsion detection stuff, in may ways solidworks is similar parts (familes) and asembilies (projects) except drawing sheets are a different files, and you can do parametic parts, just not as simply as a click of a button like revit. What I'm saying though is where it falls down is its basic modelling, it could be so so much better

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RobertHollander

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I have been dedicated to finding novel ways of rotating things into any position I want and have come up with more than one solution. I have yet to encounter something that I could not rotate.

I didn't read the whole thred so I'm responding to User ccdave

Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:39:32 PM | Cannot Rotate Element Into This Position?!

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EASY SOLUTION TO THAT ONE

I downloaded the file.

The first thing you need to do is lock your dimensions. After doing that, I went to the front elevation where I found a refence line with an angle parameter and an extrusion sitting on top of the line.

Right out of the box, if I changed the angle parameter, I got the error message about unsatisfied constraints at the same time, the extrusion changed dimensions, even with the dimensions locked.

The solution to this is as follows:

From the Front Elevation, Select the extrusion then click on “Edit Work Plane” from the ribbon menu.

Of the 4 alternatives that pop up, choose “Pick a plane” and then click on the reference line. Why do they say to pick a plane when you need to select a line? These are some of the mysteries of Revit.

Anyway, by doing this, the reference line is now the host for the extrusion and it will follow it anywhere without changing dimensions.

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Pikachu123

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I just resolved the rotation issue i was having. DO NOT CONSTRAIN TO PLANES aka LINES, only POINTS!. If you constrain to a point, you can rotate around that point, if you constrain to a plane/line, that plane will not be able to center around a point for planes are infinite. I wasnt able to rotate my cylindrical sleeve family for pipe penetrations, until i re-snapped the dimensions to a center POINT, not axis, line, or plane, loaded it back in and worked. Hope it helps.

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I'm not familiar with what you are talking about.

The only thing I can think of is that you are talking about modeling families in using the "Generic Model Adaptive" template. That interface is similar to the one in massing and I haven't spent much time in those.

I came up with a incredible and simple solution to providing full axis rotation to any object. I constructed a tiny rotation block that will rotated something into any position. I simply load what I wanting to rotate with the "Workplane Based" checkbox filled and place the object on the bock. Then I can move it when I want it in the document (I move the block and the object follows). The block can spin it into any position. 

I simply turn off the visibility of the rotation block so you don't see what is the cause of the rotation.

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