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this might seem like a silly question to people that have been in the architectural business for a long time-but is there any reason in general thatan engineer cannot simply stamp a drawingthat is correct or even mark it for the drafter to make corrections?is the engineer required to do thethe actual drawing or part of itthemselves? and i'm not talking aboutisolated cases but rather in general.. thanks
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It is the job of the architect to check that the engineer's drawings are correct, most of the time they won't draw the actual correct size and rely on their legend for sizes. you (I assume the architect) need to transfer this info into your drawings. in general, on site they must build from the architects Drawings, I have seen too many times builders setting up from Engineer's Structural plans because "they look clearer" and completly stuff the building...
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I agree, having been a licensed arch the past 18 yrs and grad from an engineering school, eng are an arch specialist, much like a doc refers you to a specialist. But just as doc is your primary care physician, so your arch is your primary pro to keep you out of code trouble. Most of us take 24 hrs of cont ed to stay up on the plethora of codes, eng, like an SE or EE do as well, but to maintain a PE (Pro eng) vs an SE (struct eng) its entirely different worlds with little on life safety, FHA, ANSI, ADA, ADAAG, Federal consumer safetey standards and all the other codes and standards we are directly responsible for. Put in a simpler way, we (arch) make sure you and your occupants are safe, SE make sure it wont fall down and PE make sure the building is ventilated properly or that you won't get electrocuted when working to maintain it.
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thanks very much JJ- your post helped me to understand more.. i see with the checklist that almost everything on it is a concern with the old hand/CAD/AutoCAD drafting- but nearly all automatic with the new BIM.. it's no wonder all those billions of dollars were lost.. although i guess not lost relative to the way the old world worked..
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" It is the job of the architect to check that the engineer's drawings are correct, most of the time they won't draw the actual correct size and rely on their legend for sizes. you (I assume the architect) need to transfer this info into your drawings. in general, on site they must build from the architects Drawings, I have seen too many times builders setting up from Engineer's Structural plans because "they look clearer" and completly stuff the building... " If this is your experience, please move to the states ~ I have yet to receive architect's drawings that are drawn to actual sizes, as opposed to nominal. I'm also finding more often (especially since the switch to revit) that we're the ones finding their discrepancies and requesting corrections. This is not to start an architect/engineer war of importance. I think much boils down to the quality of the drafting staff. Both the engineer & the architect are often too busy to check every component drawn in a building and they rely on the drafter to accurately produce plans with the information given. The drafter needs to speak up when something doesn't "feel right" or when they see a conflict, and the best way to spot conflicts is to draw with accuracy (actual sizes).
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