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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 8:27:01 AM | Anyone ever put a countertop on a wall as a sweep? Anyone?

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Seems like a logical way to do a countertop rather than inserting a family.  That should take care of the inside and outside corner problems.  Would still have to stop and start the countertop wall sweep at sinks and insert a family, I guess.  Is there a way to cut a void in an installed sweep?  Anyone got a drywall wall family with the countertop sweep already placed?

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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 10:15:17 AM | Anyone ever put a countertop on a wall as a sweep? Anyone?

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one thing you might want keep in mind is that one of the purposes of constructing BIM models is to extract informatiom. i know this is not a major concern for a lot people at this time. but being able to extract wall area and counter top area for take-offs might be a problem in this type of senario?

this whole BIM thing is new to me and your concept sound interesting. please let us know what type of results you achieve.


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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 10:23:23 AM | Anyone ever put a countertop on a wall as a sweep? Anyone?

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Keep in mind the Revit mantra "model it like you build it".  Like coreed says what about downstream data extraction?  The real secret is to build some countertop families that cover the situations you encounter in real life.  Unfortunately Revit out of the box does not provide them.  I have uploaded one of mine to this site as an expample of what is possible.

 


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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:25:55 AM | Anyone ever put a countertop on a wall as a sweep? Anyone?

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Just to add another thought. I have been using the "floor" option for creating countertops. It is easy to set thicknesses and heights and to add openings for sinks and cooktops etc... but I am concerned about future material takeoffs as my countertops are showing up as floors...

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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 2:47:18 PM | I am really leary of the implication that I can supply all quantities...........

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................for the contractor, material supplier, or bidder.  There are so many "work arounds" required in Revit that I really feel the ability of Revit to be a complete BIM with exact and complete data for all involved is being oversold.  As long as I have to "fake" a roof by doing sloped glazing to resemble the 3D shape of metal roofing there is little exact data that is going to come from that.  JMVHO.

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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 3:36:54 PM | I tried it. See attached image. Seems to work well.

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I assigned the countertop material to the sweep.  Does Revit not quantify sweeps?  What about all that precast concrete, rubber bases, crown mold, etc.  Does it not list a linear feet of each sweep material?  Although I am skeptical about trying to furnish complete quantity info in the BIM, this one seems simple.

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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 3:42:51 PM | Anyone ever put a countertop on a wall as a sweep? Anyone?

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we are saying what type of material will Revit list it as. we are not saying don't do it as a sweep.

if you use floors to create countertops, Revit will report it as floor

if a countertop is part of a wall sweep, we were saying it may report as wall and not countertop

if you have no intentions of extracting this info, or anyone else using this model down stream then it dosen't matter

 



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Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 4:15:41 PM | How are sweeps quantified by Revit? By surface area? Linear Feet? Cubic volume?

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