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Olzhas

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Good day! I grouped all elements (walls, floors, insulation, fixtures etc) in order to use this group on typical levels of my project. All changes in the group are reflected on all levels. However, I added window openings on my walls and joined the walls with outer insulation which is also in walls family. So openings were properly cut but this change only occured on the level I was working in as shown in the snapshot. I wonder why isn't this reflected on other levels? 

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Olzhas

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You placed exterior walls in your group?  Not a good idea unless your group is just exterior walls and windows. 

We need more information about the group contents and these walls.

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Olzhas

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Yes, all elements including walls are in one group because I have typical levels. Why is not that good idea? In the attached screenshot I showed the plan view taken at the window. My wall details are as follows:

1) Outer layer - facade tiles (not shown)

2) Insulation 130mm

3) 250mm blockwork

4) Inner layer - 20mm plaster

Insulation, blockwork and plaster each is drawn as a wall family. I introduced windows and joined elements but this change isn't reflected on other levels.

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Exterior walls are typically built full height, not floor to floor.  We have also found that keeping the exterior shell in its own workset allows us to better control visibility issues for exterior elevattions and perspectives.  No need to have interior elements on typically in those views.  I would never place a floor in that group either.  Complicated groups lead to complicated problems.

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@Olzhas, sorry for this odd question, but you already added those windows in the group right?

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Olzhas

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Yes, windows are also in the group. Actually those are wall openings. Now I am planning to select the walls on all levels and join the walls manually again. The weird thing is that the windows on the side of the building worked out well and appeared on all levels when I placed them on one level.

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