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Wow. Revit sweet heart, this takes the cake. I create a curved curtain wall panel that is divided into two panes: one with a sill and one without. When this family is loaded into the project it instantiates mirrored! Mirrored!!! Uh, Revit, ...?! How can this happen? Check it out for yourself and let me know if you know why the stupidest thing I've ever seen Revit do happens for you too! Cheers.
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I cannot recreate your problem, all works fine here. I mean, it breaks at some radiuses, but I’m not experiencing any mirroring. Can you upload the project where the mirroring occurs?
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It works on portion of my project as well I found, but still not in the location I initially loaded the panel into. The radius would expect to break at 180 deg or when the the width equals 2 adius. Attached is the project let me know if you spot soemthing...I'm troubleshooting it this morning as well. Thanks for taking the time to peak at this weird issue!
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Recreating the curtain wall overagain appears to solve the glitch. I'm still baffeled by how Revit could err so greatly with the geometry. I can't wrap my head around how, without flipping the panel, mirror the geometry automatically. I wish I could do it on purpose! Do you have any insight on behavior like this?
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Do you have any insight on behavior like this?
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No project attached.
Anyway, as you said, it must be a glitch of some sort. I've never seen anything like that before, so I'm affraid I'm not going to be much of a help here.
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Sorry about that...I guess the site failed to upload the file last time...Hopefully this works.
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Nope. Sorry. The site won't allow the project example to be uploaded. Two curtain wall sections are apparently too much to handle. ~sigh. Nevermind. Thanks for looking at it.
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A collegue of mine discovered what the issue was here...apparently, the direction of that that curtain wall was drawn appears to change the orientation of the curtain panel. Sorry Revit, it shouldnt happen this way. Mommy and daddy Autodesk are gonna have to sort you out (unless they have as of 2016 release). This still requires a bit of remodelling in the end which is not cool, but at least the glitch is clear. Thanks for all the responses.
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Most line sketched entities in Revit orient according to the direction drawn. Walls and column lines are two that I can quickly think of so I would not call this a glitch.
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I think I get what you’re saying: it seems the default orientation for the panel is with the “exterior” side facing inwards (towards the center of the wall radius) no matter how you create the wall. Case in point: sketch a circular model line with a 5 foot radius. Create your Curtain Wall using the pick line method and picking the model line, and the Curtain wall draws with your panels facing inwards, not outwards as you would expect. If you drew a basic wall using the same method, you could change the location line on placement. You don’t have this option with a curtain wall. Not a glitch, just a limitation. Would be a useful feature to have though.
BTW: Nice family.
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I disagree. In the case of curtain panels especially, the family orientation should govern regardless of the direction of the wall being drawn. It would be irrelevant. In the case of reference lines and the surface normals generated in the mass environment, this has slightly more logic but this is also a bit hairy. I don’t think we should simply accept this as a limitation. It needs to be fixed in order to refine the expectations from the workflow. Furthermore, the fact that there no controls for either curtain panels or surfaces to flip. They (Autodesk) included this in curtain system panels, adaptive components, and pattern based families, so why not here? Especially from a user standpoint. Wouldn't you agree?
Anyway, I appreciate your responses. I had to do some remodeling to fix my issue in the end, but I’m glad to get your perspectives on issues like these. Hopefully it is part of the ongoing refinement of the tool.
Cheers.
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