|
Forums >> Revit Building >> Technical Support >> Bad Curtainwall with Bad Joins v2015
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
 |
Not that I wouldn't love to completely rebuild this curtain wall, but is there a way to make this arguably not great curtain wall at least behave some what like it's supposed to? I'm on a deadline with this so any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
|
This user is offline |
|
 |
|
|
|
site moderator|||
Joined: Tue, May 16, 2006
13079 Posts
 |
I looked but since you didn't tell us what problems you are having, I don't see any.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
The horizontal mullions don't join as you can see in the model. It can only be joined once the curtain wall is started over, which is problematic since there has been a lot of custom work done with adding and removing segments.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
site moderator|||
Joined: Tue, May 16, 2006
13079 Posts
|
If I understand correctly, the problem is your mullion profile. The join is determined by the total geometry. Also, your capless and your Burlingame are do not have the same location dimension...one is slightly offset.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
That's really odd then...Those dimensions don't relate to the profile family at all. How could this get goofed up if the profiles are locked relative to the origin and equal on either side?
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
Yeah that's weird...the profiles have virtually identical bones (one family was made out of the other). Each has the same width on either side. For some reason Revit is misunderstanding somthing when it's loaded. I'll try rebuilding it again, but this behavior is definitely odd.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
Just rebuilt it and now Revit's messing up the other side with unexpected offsets...eek. What's going on here?
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
site moderator|||
Joined: Tue, May 16, 2006
13079 Posts
|
Those offsets are not set in the profile family, they are set in the project in the system mullion type. The numbers can be different but use the same profile. Look in your project for the solution.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
There are no other parameters to set for this. Width offsets are generated automatically based on the profile since it is determining those relationships to the Center reference plane, and the glass. I tried changing the profile to one less step from my desired and it lined up perfectly, which is dumb. It's only misbehaving once this is changed in the profile but still fails to join horizontals no matter what. Yikes. Definitely not working the way it’s supposed to. I’m not sure what else to do other than rebuilding the whole curtainwall just to hope to avoid this glitchy behavior.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
Okay so I think I deduced the issue with the original problem of horizontal mullions joining. It's a function of the panel offset. In this case, fortunately, the panels are all system panels. The offset in the attached file above have been set to -1/2" to have the location line of the wall at the outside face of glass. Revit, apparently, hates this idea. Setting it back to zero allows the mullions to join properly. However, I'm thinking this may have more to do with mullion profile itself since I know it is custom from within our office template. This is further likely because of the second glitch I noticed in my previous post where alignments between similar mullions in the vertical grid create an error in the offsets. Not sure what rule is being broken but I will hopefully come to a conclusion. That may involve learning to read the code in the API! Hopefully not though.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
|
|
site moderator|||
Joined: Tue, May 16, 2006
13079 Posts
|
crwinchester,
I still say the problem is your mullions. Where did you get these? (I can't even create a new one that results in that locked dimension.)
If you create your own profiles, you don't get the greyed out dimension for the offset like the ones you are using. Look at that width side one and width side 2. Those should be the same dimension.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
active
Joined: Sat, Sep 4, 2010
173 Posts
|
Yes I know. These were created in house. However, if I recreate them from scratch the same issue occurs. It’s an issue with these particular mullions for some reason. There is definitely a glitch when these mullion profiles are in contact with similar profiles for some reason. I can't get past it. Revit can't figure it out for some reason and there aren't any other ways to control them outside of the profile, which is not overly complicated at all. So, I have to work around it unfortunately. The good news is that we will be moving forward with a unitized panel system so the mullions won’t even be necessary. Thanks for your reply.
|
This user is offline |
|
|
|
Search
142409_curtain_wall_problemo.rvt
