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Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:40:20 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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Strange problem with interior elevations.  Doing toilet elevations and the problem occurs on right and down elevations and does not occur on left and up elevations.  I put a mirror on a wall and the R&D elevations the mirror will not hide the tile joints on the wall behind the mirror and on the L&U elevations it show correctly.  I have used a view template on both elevations so they should be identical for all the settings.  Same goes for these elevations when I modify the view clip.  With no clip the model elements on the other side of the wall show up on the R elevations but do not show up on the L elevations.

You can see it on the attached Right & Left elevations.  The mirror was put on the wall the same way in both elevations and it looks correct on the left elevation and not in the right elevation.

Then in Right elevation 1, the mirror in the drawing is actually on the other side of the wall. and showing thru.

This is driving me crazy.  I have tried all sorts of view setting to no avail.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks

Terry



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Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:05:46 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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Several things which we don't know.

Is this mirror a model element or is it 2d - All annotation family? 

Is the wainscot a thin wall agaist the main wall or is it split face?  If seperate walls, join them.  If a 2D family then it needs to be hosted by the outermost wall.

Are these back to back rooms?   The reason I ask is you say "... in Right elevation 1, the mirror in the drawing is actually on the other side of the wall. and showing thru..."   Maybe the other mirror is that too?  Is your view wireframe?  In plan, pull your view crop for the elevation back to the center of the wall.  No reason to go beyond that on any iterior elevation - you just make Revit do more work hiding elements.


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Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:37:11 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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Thanks for responding.  I had all those same questions and went thru each one of them with no success.  The tile is a separate wall and I have joined it with the backup wall.  I have moved the view crop to the wall so it does not show stuff on the other side of the wall but does not solve the problem of sink/mirrors not blocking out the grid on the tile wall.  I have tried hidden line, and colored views and not the wireframe and that does not change the results.  Wierd that some times the view depth would eliminate the colors on the wall even though it was in the consistant color mode.  I have made sure the mirrors etc. were hosted on the corrent finish wall and that doesn't always work.

Since I posted it I tried this.  I copy/pasted the toilet rooms into a new clean drawing and everything worked correctly so I think I have some sort of glitch in the original file.  It is a file I have been working on for over a year with lots of changes over that time.  I tried copy/pasteing the good one back into the original file and it went back to the same results.  I have no idea how to find out what is causing the problem.  I have tried purging the drawing a couple times but that has not solved the problem.  I have never run into anything like this and I am guessing there is something that is pretty obsure causing the problem.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 


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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:18:33 AM | Problem with Interior elevations

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I am very sure this is a process problem.  Please post a very small/ purged project that just has the wall / wainscott wall, lav and mirror.

 

Before you do that, check the thickness of your mirror family in relation to the veneer.  The mirror never 'cuts' a wall.  It is surface mtd and I bet it's no thick enough to 'cut' the tile.

 

 



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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:53:17 AM | Problem with Interior elevations

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I have attached a purged file of the toilets only that I copied into a clean new file and now it works fine.  I also did a test on the bad file and basically deleted everthing in the file but the toilet area.  After doing that, the elevations now work correctly.  There must be something in the file that is causing the problem.  It was a shell building for most of the project and just now a tenant was added so I don't know when this problem started as I never had any interior elevations before.  The exterior elevations never had a problem.

Don't know what to say but it sure is a problem.

The purged file is 3 mb's so don't know if it will come thru with the 2mb limit.

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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:22:20 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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No file.

After you purge, you can always compact.


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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:43:45 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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I tried to save it compacted and also zipped with no luck getting under the 2mb.  Am I doing something wrong.  If you want to email me I could give you access to the file via google drive.  terry.hymans@gmail.com


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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:47:58 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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There is no way that it will remain that large unless you didn't purge correctly or you have embedded CAD.

You can do this instead.  Open your file and copy the walls/doors/elements to clipboard.  Don't close but create a new file using the commercial template (not yours) and paste all of these in the new project.  Save and post this project.


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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:35:40 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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Not sure what I am doing wrong.  I have purged it until there are no items left, 3 purges.  Then I save as a compacted file in the save options and the file is still 3.4mb.  There are no cad files or an referenced files in the new file.  I am working in Revit 2015.


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Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:51:29 PM | Problem with Interior elevations

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Sorry but you are doing something wrong.  Sometimes you have to purge twice to get nested things.   Here is a simple 2015 files with similar elements.  Start there.



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