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TBOSA

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I've rotated project north a few times in the past without too much difficulty. Unfortunately, now I'm dealing with a large two building project and things are not going well. The new and existing buildings (and various components) are in several linked models with shared coordinates. We recently rotated the main new building with significant difficulty and many dropped items from detail lines to rooms and component families. The building rotated on an arc that looked like a couple miles in the file. 

Now we are trying to rotate project north for a new garage on the site that is fairly simple. Everytime I rotate project north, the whole building distorts and some of the parking space families land completely outside the building. The project base point and survey point are both just outside the building. 

Why is project north rotation actually moving the building?

Is there a way to do this without wreaking havoc on the model? 

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WWHub

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It sounds like you don't understand the process.  This video will help you with that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigvY4LT-RI

I must caution you.  Once you have rotated your project or have acquired coordinates, you will not be able to typically do these again ...at least I have had problems.

• Pay attention to your view orientation Project North vs True North
• Note – Rotating project north will rotate the plan view’s exterior elevation callouts accordingly

•  Rotating project north will rotate all elements already created so that is why it is important to do it first if possible.

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TBOSA

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It appears that you missed the point of what I was asking. Your video link is informative for someone who wants to take 23 minutes to get a basic understanding of setting points that you have control of. I don't have those luxuries. 

Maybe it is my fault for asking you a question that is really for Autodesk and actually questions whether their concept of project north is a misnomer. Clearly it is. 

Since I had no choice but to rotate project north (neither the original orientation nor the new orientation were my choice), now I understand all too clearly another burdensome problem with Revit in a real world application. Furthermore, I had to do it with acquired/shared coordinates - there was no way around it. 

They could even offer a work-around by allowing more options for rotation of views on a sheet than 90 degrees in either direction. It would be a pain, but at least the user wouldn't have to go through and fix every view and pray that they don't miss something in the process. 

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WWHub

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I think you need to do some more research, I think you are fighting thee process because of a lack of understanding.  The project north tool works and it really only allows you to orient your view callouts NSEW so they are logical with your plan and to correct the standard orientation of North being up.  So.... rotate project north will only rotate in 90 degree increments.  Again, it sounds like you are not paying attention to view orientation which is a view property settings.

You also have view rotation tools available to you that you may not be aware of.

BTW - If all of your linked models used the same shared coordintaes, the would appear correctly when linked unless someone moved them in the model.

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TBOSA

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Never mind. Asking on this site has become useless. 

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dgcad

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This site is anything but useless.

The true north, project north, shared geodetic coordinates works 'wonderfully' if you learn how to use them along with the survey point (clip on or off) and project base point. It works trust me. We use the tools rigorously on HUGE projects with many linked models all properly postioned and manipulated to view properly.

It all works and it works like a charm. I guess you just don't have what it takes to figure it out. Go away now.

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TBOSA

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Quite happily since you don't actually seem to understand the question and don't want to take the time to understand or listen. Instead, you accuse those asking of not understanding or listening to you... 

WWHub even indicated having similar problems within the first answer:

"you will not be able to typically do these again ...at least I have had problems."

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