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teafoe5

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So you are basically doing the same work twice?  Making a workset in the linked file and making the same workset in the project file?  View template is still the way to go.

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When we receive an architectural model (we're an MEP firm) we "clean up" the arch views by turning off all annotations except room tags (rarely do we need to see other arch annotations) and create a  view template from the cleaned-up view, and that template is applied to all plan and ceiling views. We leave all model categories as they are, but for your view template, you could turn off whatever model categories you don't want to see when the project is linked to your project. I'm not sure that it was clear in the thread that the view template should be applied to the linked model. A view template in the host model only controls objects in the host, not in the links. And then make sure your link is set to "By Linked View" in the visibility graphics of the views in your own project.

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Jlights,

Sorry but you are miss-informed.  You can control linked file all elements and worksets in linked files from within your view templete settings. This is NOT a project template setting.  It has to be established after linking.

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I agree that this can be done in severel different ways, and i think its an interesting subject, so i continue to advocat for my solution. Because i believe my way is the easiest, depending on the situation. If an engineer links an architects project to do their work on top of. They can create empty worksets named after the architects worksets, and use those empty worksets to turn off the architects workset in the link. There is no double work, only creating and naming worksets, i count 5 clicks + the name. On/off afterwards is only 3 clicks away.

If the same is done with viewtemplates, it has to be done in every viewtemplate, i count about 15 clicks each. And if you work in pre 2013 you also have to remember to apply default viewtemplate to every view.  On/off is then still about 15 clicks away.

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WW, I beg to differ with you. I am not misinformed; I was not saying you could NOT control link visibility from the host model (of course you can) but rather was describing the way in which my company does this in case someone would find it useful. As usual, there are many ways of accomplishing the same thing in Revit. My company has a setup department that handles all project setups, so individual users don't typically need to manage the backgrounds in their views. This method has the advantage of providing for uniformity of backgrounds for all users across 5 trades and minimizes the time that designers spend tweaking backgrounds, so doing it this way makes sense for us. I should add that we set our links to By Linked View so that the visibility settings in the linked models are maintained in the host model. If your linked views are set to By Host View, then your projects's view templates would indeed control the background visibilities, but for our needs this doesn't work as well as using a view template in the links and setting the view visibility to By Linked View. This is how we turn off all background elements of certain types in all views.

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jlights,

I was responding to your statement "A view template in the host model only controls objects in the host, not in the links."  That is not true!  Individual objects yes but worksets and categories can all be cotrolled in the host model.

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WW, correct. Actually, we both are, but I wasn't clear in my original post that the host view templates DON'T affect the background visibilities  *when link visibility is set to By Linked View* (the method I was describing). Host view templates control the background visibility *when the link visibility is set to By Host View*. The link visibility setting determines whether or not the host view template affects background visibility.

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I'll add a little clarity.  The Host view templates ( when the link is model, not view ) can be set to either host settings or they can be set to custom where the link is set independently to the host.

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If you put items on set workset in linked file, then create workset with same name in new project the workset from the linked file will hide if you turn it off directly from visbility graphics overide.  If you create a view template and set it to custom and then set the workset from the linked file to hide, again the linked file elements will turn off.  It comes down to how you want to control the elements from the linked file, if the desired effect is to turn off the elements directly in the view straight from visibility then the first option can work if you would prefer to have the entire project hide the elements, option 2 is the way to go. 

We continue to get updated files from our consultants and unless they put those elements on the desired workset for us everytime they send it to us we would have to put those elements back on that workset.  We typically dont mess with the consultant file and create a view template set to custom and turn off the desired categories.  If you must isolate elements perhaps subcatories is the way to go then set to custom and turn off with view template.  Argh. 

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