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MEBDesign

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Trying to get to grips with various elements ot a project we  are working on, sometimes things just don't work how you expect!

Trying to model brise soleil as a railing element, have the arms as balustrades and blades as railings however it won't allow me to move the blades between or even below the arms. At the moment the closest I can get them is setting them at a height of 100mm. If I enter the height any lower I get the message 'Top reference is below bottom refernce for one of more Balusters.' I've attached image to show what's going on.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Simon

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Using a railing for this is just plain ackward.  We use one family for the idividual brackets and a profile family for an in-place sweep that does the blades.  You could also does as independent family with adjustible length but that will not do a mitered corner and the in-place will.

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MEBDesign

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Hadn't thought of that strategy, thanks!

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LIZARD2806

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Search for "Kawneer 1600 Sunshade" in the downloads and you'll find one I made as a railing, if you choose to do it that way.  You'll need to open the file and then transfer it in to your job.  It is nice to have it automatically miter corners and a cinch to place into the model.  I respectfully disagree with WWHUB that it is awkward, as this is as simple as simple can be, at least it was for me.  I am sure he can convince me otherwise....he just hasn't yet.  Give this family a try and judge for yourself.

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MEBDesign

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Lizard,

I had seen that model, and was going to try it as my next step, maybe I should have a look at yours anyway and explore the settings. I was more frustrated beause I didn't undertstand what I was doing wrong in the settings. Thanks

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Lizard ... I didn't say you could not use railings - just that they were awkward.  Railing really just use the sweep process.  The problem is the ballusters.  Railings work for stairs because the balluster placement is predictable.  Not so with a sun shade.  And setting up the railings is more difficult than doing one profile that defines all of the fins and relationship in one sketch.

MEP - It will be a good exercise anyway.

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