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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:06:34 AM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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 I am trying to create a stone or eifs cap for a pilaster in the shape attached. I have been working this by trying to create a family using the mass template. I am able to make a linework scetch, but have no idea how to create a mass out of this. You could thing of the shape as a rectangular box with wedge shaped pieces on top, to allow for drainage. I can't figure out how to even create a triangular wedge shape, much less with box below.

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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:26:14 AM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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Just do it as an in-place family, walls category and create it using the solid blend.  It's just a shape with a different profile at each end.

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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:50:22 AM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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 I am not having any luck with this, I don't know how to create a solid blend. Any chance of a walkthrough on how to achieve this? Regardless, it seems it should be easy to create 3d objects based on a wire frame or faces. I haven't spent much time in Sketchup, but was able to create this shape in maybe 3 minutes. I would rather use Revit though.

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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:37:12 PM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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It depends on which version of REVIT you are using but that's a pretty basic shape (ie: under 30 seconds of work) I think the HELP menu explains how to create a solid blend.

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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:08:17 PM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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The image shows two ways.  The one on the left is a blend (see the help under creating an in-place element) with one profile at one end and another at the second end.  Dgcad is correct, it takes about 30 seconds.  If it has two planes like the one on the right, I used a simple  rectangular extrusion with a void blend to cut the section out.  The void is shown purple.  Use the cut geometry to subtract it from the extrusion.

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Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:09:43 PM | How would I create this as a mass or componant

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 Hehe believe me, I have been reading the help sections plus a book I am using and any web resources. I guess I haven't been able to grasp the solid blend work flow yet. I am really just doing exercizes to teach myself Revit, and even though I had a reasonable workaround for this pilaster cap, I really wanted to delve into the 3D massing features of Revit. Sorry I didn't mention I am in 2010.

 Thanks for the comments dgcad and tim123, they did help in me finding a solution. Tim, your solution is interesting, I never would have thought of using a void for the facet. The only problem is that the two horizontal front lines are supposed to be parallel. I am sure this solution will come in handy in other situations.

 Anyway, I found an interesting video on the "Revit Design Reform" website that showed how to manipulate the 3D mass. Again I really wanted to use this tool, as I have several of these shapes and some of them are a bit more complex. The key was to assign dimension parameters to each of the vertical edges, once that is done you can create different types quite easily. I created the facets with a line tool using the 3Dsnap and "make faces from closed loop" options. The solid blend option will probably prove more efficient time wise for most examples of this type, I will put it on my list of things to learn (funny how that list never gets smaller). But at least I getting a basic understanding of how the Mass family works.


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